Robson Released to Newcastle and Dean also to Newcastle on a season long loan.

No doubt Dufty will be announced for next year and Dean will be released. Another tick in the box for the Wire youth system.

This is crazy unless Dean is being given game time to get more appearances next season

Alternatively, Riley could have signed a deal elsewhere and there is no point in him playing any further games for us?

The fact that the loan deal is for the rest of the season, with no recall, is very strange otherwise.

There is a recall option on Dean's loan

OK, thanks.

I`ll wind my neck in now!!!!

We need to retain Riley, he has a big future in RL, hopefully it will be with Wire

Let’s not get our knickers in a twist…this just gives Riley regular game time at Championship level rather than Reserves every other week…he can be called back whenever we need him…plus he is still training with us so ‘win win’ for all concerned.

appreciate i'm putting you on the spot here and you're limited in what your able to say, but he spent most of last season on loan at york and Dewsbury. i know we're under a new coaching staff now, but for young players going out on loan, is it purely a case of you need minutes and reps, or is there some sort of metric that our club looks at, or is it just Pricey tape reviewing performances to say "we thought riley wasn't as strong at X but we can see he applied this on 3 or 4 occasions in this game" [uyou've improved[/u

I'm genuinely interested in this,i'm guessing game time as a half is completely different from a prop/back row which is mainly hit ups, tackles, marker tackles etc.

Dean has only had 3 starts so far this season, he needs regular game time in order to develop.

Williams and Ratchford seems to be the preferred halfback pairing at the moment. I expect that Widdop will get the nod at fullback this week but I don’t think that the coach will have any concerns about Thewlis stepping back in should Widdop need to move back to half due to injuries. Mata'utia could also be ahead of Dean in the pecking order at half, should the need arise, with Wrench able to cover at centre. With Minikin being reported as only a couple of weeks away we have further options in the 3/4.

I see this as a positive move for Dean and he can be recalled at any time.

If that ever came to be correct then Powell needs his head looking at

Yes, looking at the Reserves fixtures at best it is 2 games per month - sometimes one. So at least he is getting some more regular game time with the flexibility to be recalled as and when needed. Definitely a win win.

Don’t get it. Best half back performance of the season was Dean and Matautia against Hudd. Dean have comfortably the most complete performance by a wire half back this season.
Not saying he’s ready yet but would rather than than persisting with Ratchford in the halves. Don’t see any future in the current combination.

Powell’s thoughts on it here. Think it will be good for Dean as long as he plays week in week out https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... lves-loan/

Powell’s thoughts on it here. Think it will be good for Dean as long as he plays week in week out https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... lves-loan/

No mention of Robson on this thread….

Sadly not. This is his 9th loan, I think. And we won't see him in a Warrington shirt again.

i am sure Sky Sports News reported Robson as a permanent deal?

The Robson move definitely reported as permanent. Can’t help but feel we messed him around.

Yeah, permanent. I wrongly presumed it was a loan as Newcastle have only signed him for the rest of this season.

lots of 12 month (max) contracts in the championship

Really don't see why Dean didn't come to Saints on loan. He would benefit from that far more than semi-pro'ing it at Newcastle. You could have come to an agreement that he doesn't play against you should you perform miracles in the Play offs too. Would have been a win-win for all parties.

Maybe it was never on the table? Saints never enquired and we never offered?
Maybe we really needed Robson off the cap and Newcastle were adamant that dean on load had to be part of any deal?

Maybe we don't want saints tapping him up before he is offered a contract?

He will be fine, whatever the reason, we have a recall option and he will definitely be playing for the next few weeks which is important for him.

I just don’t get this crisis in the half backs at Saints that has led to a sudden decline. Haven’t you just got 1 halfback injured? Have you seen how many different options we have had to use and we have done much less bleating than you lot.

Judging by what I’ve seen of the top two in the last couple of weeks I don’t think we need ‘miracles’. Make sure we get in the top 6 and along with steady improvement and I wouldn’t be counting us out.

Sudden decline? We've lost one game due to the disruption both our halfbacks getting injured caused. We'll be fine, but I know we have been looking for a loan scrum half as it's the one position we don't have an obvious backup in. We have a couple of decent academy halfbacks but they are apparantly on part time deals because of work. If Hopoate was ever fit it wouldn't be an issue either, but he's as robust as a biscuit.

If you need a halfback, Saints could/should have made borrowing Dean on a month by month basis a condition, before you allowed Amor to join Wire.

Does anyone KNOW that Saints (the club rather than a particular supporter) wanted Dean?