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| A funny thing happened to me on friday when i turned to my saints fan friend and said i have no doubts that the wire would win tonight! now as i said that a sudden thought came over me not just in regards to that game but when did we go from saying i hope we will win but probably wont against most teams to i am sure we will win against most teams it seems to have just crept into our culture as the expectant winner wheras i remember the days not so long ago we were the expectant loser and a win was a bonus.
Just thought id see if anyone could pin point the moment that happened
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| Cup Semi-final, 2009, v Wigan at Widnes.
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| You've always been smug, arrogant barstewards on the whole. You could, seriously, go through the many years of playing the fool against Saints and find tons of people who would say things like 'really can't see us losing this one'. The only thing that has changed is that you can actually win the games now.
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| where as i honestly always aired on side of caution however this season something has been different and i have been the unlikely optomist
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| I still do not go in to any game overly confident except maybe the challenge cup games against lower league opposition.
Too many years of let down teach me to keep my feet planted on the ground. Away games at the likes of Salford, Bradford, Wakefield, and Hull KR still fill me with dread.
Thankfully they are done and dusted.
Again, Cas away this week, I am not confident.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Cup Semi-final, 2009, v Wigan at Widnes.'"
When I say this I mean that I believe that the team found the self-belief and confidence that they had the ability from this point onwards. As a fan I still have my doubts at times.
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| Regal Trophy semi-final in January 1996
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Quote ="wolfinwidnes"A funny thing happened to me on friday when i turned to my saints fan friend and said i have no doubts that the wire would win tonight! now as i said that a sudden thought came over me not just in regards to that game but when did we go from saying i hope we will win but probably wont against most teams to i am sure we will win against most teams it seems to have just crept into our culture as the expectant winner wheras i remember the days not so long ago we were the expectant loser and a win was a bonus.
Just thought id see if anyone could pin point the moment that happened'"
It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM
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Quote ="wolfinwidnes"A funny thing happened to me on friday when i turned to my saints fan friend and said i have no doubts that the wire would win tonight! now as i said that a sudden thought came over me not just in regards to that game but when did we go from saying i hope we will win but probably wont against most teams to i am sure we will win against most teams it seems to have just crept into our culture as the expectant winner wheras i remember the days not so long ago we were the expectant loser and a win was a bonus.
Just thought id see if anyone could pin point the moment that happened'"
It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM
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Quote ="viking.gb"It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM'"
No, not at all. I'll bet it hurts Widnes fans to watch it and realise how far you've fallen. The problem was that the Widnes club was run like the Greek economy. Maybe this time round you'll be able to cope.
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Quote ="viking.gb"It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM'"
No, not at all. I'll bet it hurts Widnes fans to watch it and realise how far you've fallen. The problem was that the Widnes club was run like the Greek economy. Maybe this time round you'll be able to cope.
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| Quote ="wolfinwidnes"A funny thing happened to me on friday when i turned to my saints fan friend and said i have no doubts that the wire would win tonight! now as i said that a sudden thought came over me not just in regards to that game but when did we go from saying i hope we will win but probably wont against most teams to i am sure we will win against most teams it seems to have just crept into our culture as the expectant winner wheras i remember the days not so long ago we were the expectant loser and a win was a bonus.
Just thought id see if anyone could pin point the moment that happened'"
I reckon we used to lose these matches because we never paused for breath or punctuation and so eventually after one hundred words or so we just ran out of wind and couldnt play at all
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| Widnes fans trying to have a pop.
Thursday nights SKY SPORTS 4.
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Quote ="viking.gb"It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question =#FF0000does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM'"
Christ no. For a few reasons really:-
1 - It was 22 years ago.
2 - We've won 2 major trophies in the last 2 years.
3 - You've spent a fair portion of the last 22 years a division below us.
4 - We sent you down.
5 - We're so wedged we could buy your ground tomorrow. Not off you obviously, off the Council that own it.
6 - We're challenging for the SL title. I'm 33. Unless I'm killed in a freak yachting accident, you're unlikely to do that before I'm dead.
There's probably another 14 reasons but I think those 5 will do for now.
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Quote ="viking.gb"It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question =#FF0000does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM'"
Christ no. For a few reasons really:-
1 - It was 22 years ago.
2 - We've won 2 major trophies in the last 2 years.
3 - You've spent a fair portion of the last 22 years a division below us.
4 - We sent you down.
5 - We're so wedged we could buy your ground tomorrow. Not off you obviously, off the Council that own it.
6 - We're challenging for the SL title. I'm 33. Unless I'm killed in a freak yachting accident, you're unlikely to do that before I'm dead.
There's probably another 14 reasons but I think those 5 will do for now.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Christ no. For a few reasons really:-
1 - It was 22 years ago.
2 - We've won 2 major trophies in the last 2 years.
3 - You've spent a fair portion of the last 22 years a division below us.
4 - We sent you down.
5 - We're so wedged we could buy your ground tomorrow. Not off you obviously, off the Council that own it.
6 - We're challenging for the SL title. I'm 33. Unless I'm killed in a freak yachting accident, you're unlikely to do that before I'm dead.
There's probably another 14 reasons but I think those 5 will do for now.'"
Watch out for number 6 Ian, after that post there'll be an Eddie Stobart lorry heading your way.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Christ no. For a few reasons really:-
1 - It was 22 years ago.
2 - We've won 2 major trophies in the last 2 years.
3 - You've spent a fair portion of the last 22 years a division below us.
4 - We sent you down.
5 - We're so wedged we could buy your ground tomorrow. Not off you obviously, off the Council that own it.
6 - We're challenging for the SL title. I'm 33. Unless I'm killed in a freak yachting accident, you're unlikely to do that before I'm dead.
There's probably another 14 reasons but I think those 5 will do for now.'"
So wedged lol you can only spend up to the cap,And how much do u think steve o has in his bank account,A hell of a lot
2 challenge cups lol that was great but lets face it it is still only 7 like us.
Now im not saying you are not miles ahead of us.I was just asking how far away do u think u are at becoming world champs ?.
As no matter how long ago it was, we where world champs and no 1 can take that away from us,In front of 30,000 at old trafford.
O and the stobart is a much better build that the HJ.......o and steve o could buy your ground about 5 times over lol.so dont know where that comment come from,we are richer than u lol.
See ya next year
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| Maybe before buying our ground Mr O'Neil could buy the Widnes ground back from Halton Borough Council.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Maybe before buying our ground Mr O'Neil could buy the Widnes ground back from Halton Borough Council.'"
We dont want buy your ground as you dont want to buy ours i never started that daft idea,Lets knock that 1 on the head.
I am not getting into a war of words,I was just pointing out that you are going great at the moment ,How painfull it is lol
And was wondering how long do u think before u get a crack at world club challenge,Because the way u are going there every chance you will make it there.
And if u do do u think you could reach the promise land and turn an aussie side over ?.
O and as much as we hate eachother its got to be good for the game to have widnes warrington back ?
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| Quote ="viking.gb"So wedged lol you can only spend up to the cap,And how much do u think steve o has in his bank account,A hell of a lot
2 challenge cups lol that was great but lets face it it is still only 7 like us.
Now im not saying you are not miles ahead of us.I was just asking how far away do u think u are at becoming world champs ?.
As no matter how long ago it was, we where world champs and no 1 can take that away from us,In front of 30,000 at old trafford.
O and the stobart is a much better build that the HJ.......o and steve o could buy your ground about 5 times over lol.so dont know where that comment come from,we are richer than u lol.
See ya next year
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The Halton stadium is not a better build, in fact it is an appallingly designed stadium, the vomitoria are ridiculous, it should be condemned.
Buy it five times? It is at this point that Mr Moran steps in and tells O'Connor to take his vehicles and associated grease monkeys orf his land, before he sets the dogs on him.
It is obvious O'Connor has unparalleled by the way he has splashed it about.
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| I've heard everything now, a Widnes fan taking the mickey out of us. Didn't the team that won the WCC all those years ago go bust. The present team is only 2 years old and rent the council facility for games. They have to off it by a certain time so the pensioners can play bowls.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"I've heard everything now, a Widnes fan taking the mickey out of us. Didn't the team that won the WCC all those years ago go bust. The present team is only 2 years old and rent the council facility for games. They have to off it by a certain time so the pensioners can play bowls.'"
They went into administration and come out of it. It is still the same club.
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Quote ="viking.gb"It hurts to see how good you are going and i think its alot down to tony smith,But how far do u think u are from doing this,and serious question does this still hurt you when u see it ? youtu.be/LCnyp3ft_mM'"
didnt hurt then doesnt hurt now....it was hardly an established tournament was it......? some twenty two years later it still not fully taken seriously.......
My overriding memory was it was great to have some Rugby League on the BBC on a wednesday night. secondly what a great shot by Laurie Daley. Thirdly was Keith Macklin related to the Queen speaking like that.
I wouldnt swap it for a challenge cup final ever. the only reason there is modest interest in the WC games is because there are no more Australian winter tours and those midweek games against the top 8 clubs were absolutely sensational nights, and Sky are desperate to reclaim that missing part of our game
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didnt hurt then doesnt hurt now....it was hardly an established tournament was it......? some twenty two years later it still not fully taken seriously.......
My overriding memory was it was great to have some Rugby League on the BBC on a wednesday night. secondly what a great shot by Laurie Daley. Thirdly was Keith Macklin related to the Queen speaking like that.
I wouldnt swap it for a challenge cup final ever. the only reason there is modest interest in the WC games is because there are no more Australian winter tours and those midweek games against the top 8 clubs were absolutely sensational nights, and Sky are desperate to reclaim that missing part of our game
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"didnt hurt then doesnt hurt now....it was hardly an established tournament was it......? some twenty two years later it still not fully taken seriously.......
My overriding memory was it was great to have some Rugby League on the BBC on a wednesday night. secondly what a great shot by Laurie Daley. Thirdly was Keith Macklin related to the Queen speaking like that.
I wouldnt swap it for a challenge cup final ever. the only reason there is modest interest in the WC games is because there are no more Australian winter tours and those midweek games against the top 8 clubs were absolutely sensational nights, and Sky are desperate to reclaim that missing part of our game'"
O well wont bother speaking on here if it just turns into a war of words lol.Widnes never went bust after world club challenge,Yes there where a few fools taking out of the club when we hit the heights,Lets not forget we had a great team before we won world club and after, all this talk of going bust is foolish.We went on to win regal trophy 1991–92 lancashire cup 1990–91 charity shield 1990–91 and runners up wembly 93.
And after all our time out of the top flight and we still have a richer history than u lol.So think we have the bragging rights in that deparment, jog on nuff said.
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| Quote ="viking.gb"O well wont bother speaking on here if it just turns into a war of words lol.Widnes never went bust after world club challenge,Yes there where a few fools taking out of the club when we hit the heights,Lets not forget we had a great team before we won world club and after, all this talk of going bust is foolish.We went on to win regal trophy 1991–92 lancashire cup 1990–91 charity shield 1990–91 and runners up wembly 93.
And after all our time out of the top flight and we still have a richer history than u lol.So think we have the bragging rights in that deparment, jog on nuff said.
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Please don't tell me you count Charity shields as a trophy. Sound like a Liverpool fan. It's on par with the Bensons for Beds challenge.
Warrington
Championship - 3
Challenge Cup - 7
Premiership - 1
Lancashire League - 8
Lancashire Cup - 9
Regal Trophy -4
32 trophies
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Championship - 3
Challenge cup - 7
Premiership - 6
Lancashire Cup -7
Lancashire League -1
Floodlit -1
Regal trophy -3
World Club challenge-1
European - 1
30 trophies.
The only thing you have won more times is the Premiership, Floodlit, European and World club challenge.
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| Quote ="viking.gb"
And after all our time out of the top flight and we still have a richer history than u lol.So think we have the bragging rights in that deparment, jog on nuff said.
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Read my signature pal it was made for people like you...
you do realise Widnes won its first ever champonship as recently as 1977.... we had already filled our boots with a league and cup double twenty years before that.
So don't compare trophies,compare something like best ever wingers..... oh hang on best not...
dust down your shell suit and you jog on.
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| Oh no!
Demics/Comics are on here, now, widge measuring.
I thought that was a closed shop with the Worriers...seems I'm wrong
These lot are going to be unbearable next year if they win...a game
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