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| Salford City Reds v Warrington Wolves 5pm (SKY)
Ref J Child
TJ M Wilson
TJ W Turley
RO P Marklove
RO C Leatherbarrow
VR I Smith
TK D Campbell
MC I McGregor
At least its not terrible Albert!!!!!!!!
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| The ref dusnt really bother me 2 be honest buy j child has impressed me when he's been on sky or reffed us and shows he ain't afraid to take action with the red card he gave Webster against Bradford
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| Just to ask, why do we need 8 officials? I understand the 1 ref, 2 touch judges and 1 VR. But what do the others do?
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| Reserve Officals, Time keeper.
MC, to bang out the tunes...
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Reserve Officals, Time keeper.
MC, to bang out the tunes...'"
Ahh right, I understand
Anyone got a clue what the MC actually is?
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| Match commissioner
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"Match commissioner'"
Ahh of course! Thanks
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| Quote ="oli30045"Just to ask, why do we need 8 officials? I understand the 1 ref, 2 touch judges and 1 VR. But what do the others do?'"
It's to make sure nothing is ever missed and all decisions made are the correct ones, as I'm sure you know, they are doing a marvelous job.
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| Generally speaking, a ref never truly influences the outcome of a game. However, you do know what type of game your going to get with each of them.
Ganson - No bull, reasonable flow, few mistakes, full control = decent, fast game (suits us)
Alibert - Reasonable flow, lots of mistakes (ie missed offences), random decisions, little control = slow niggly game
Child - Good flow, few penalties, quick decisions (meaning some mistakes), reasonable control = reasonably pacy game (suits us)
Silverwood - Next to no flow, too many penalties, good control = slow, niggly game
Bentham - good flow, lots of mistakes, fewer penalties = reasonably pacy, though frustrating game
Smith - see Silverwood.
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| I'm happy. Least it's not Silverwood or Ali T.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Generally speaking, a ref never truly influences the outcome of a game. However, you do know what type of game your going to get with each of them.
Ganson - No bull, reasonable flow, few mistakes, full control = decent, fast game (suits us)
Alibert - Reasonable flow, lots of mistakes (ie missed offences), random decisions, little control = slow niggly game
Child - Good flow, few penalties, quick decisions (meaning some mistakes), reasonable control = reasonably pacy game (suits us)
Silverwood - Next to no flow, too many penalties, good control = slow, niggly game
Bentham - good flow, lots of mistakes, fewer penalties = reasonably pacy, though frustrating game
Smith - see Silverwood.'"
Interesting analysis. It seems that Steve Ganson has, in many people's eyes, transformed his reputation over the past couple of seasons. At one time it was always "Oh no, not Ganson!" but now most fans seem pretty pleased when he's in charge. Not all, but most.
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| Always liked Billy Thompson myself. A.J Murphy's favourite official
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| Quote ="The Speculator"Interesting analysis. It seems that Steve Ganson has, in many people's eyes, transformed his reputation over the past couple of seasons. At one time it was always "Oh no, not Ganson!" but now most fans seem pretty pleased when he's in charge. Not all, but most.'"
That's because Ganson has been the best ref for the last 2 seasons
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"Always liked Billy Thompson myself. A.J Murphy's favourite official
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fred lindop, any one?
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"Always liked Billy Thompson myself. A.J Murphy's favourite official
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Oh no, Matt King's Cat. Thanks for that! I'll be having nightmares now, for the rest of the week. I still fret over that Cup Quarter final at Wilderspool v Hull in 1983. Think he disallowed 4 trys that day, and we ended up getting beat 10-5. Cue biased Billy getting YET ANOTHER police escort off the pitch. I still get wound up over that game, 27 years on.
Any body remember John Smith from the 80's and early 90's. STREWTH, he hated us.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Oh no, Matt King's Cat. Thanks for that! I'll be having nightmares now, for the rest of the week. I still fret over that Cup Quarter final at Wilderspool v Hull in 1983. Think he disallowed 4 trys that day, and we ended up getting beat 10-5. Cue biased Billy getting YET ANOTHER police escort off the pitch. I still get wound up over that game, 27 years on.
Any body remember John Smith from the 80's and early 90's. STREWTH, he hated us.
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Oh Smith was a terrible twunt of a man. Humourless too. Holdsworth was my favourite panto-villain referee. He LOVED reffing and being centre of attention, and would happily banter with frothing fans (my dad included) whenever he was waiting for a controversial try to be converted. Him and my dad struck up quite the rapport over the years.....
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| Bang on, Rocky. For all his faults (and there were many), Holdsworth wasn't too bad. Pantomime villain sums him up perfectly.
Another on my hatelist would be Gerry Kershaw, nasty scrawny little man.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Oh no, Matt King's Cat. Thanks for that! I'll be having nightmares now, for the rest of the week. I still fret over that Cup Quarter final at Wilderspool v Hull in 1983. Think he disallowed 4 trys that day, and we ended up getting beat 10-5. Cue biased Billy getting YET ANOTHER police escort off the pitch. I still get wound up over that game, 27 years on.
Any body remember John Smith from the 80's and early 90's. STREWTH, he hated us.
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Was it Phil Ford who had two tries disallowed in the space of about 3 minutes? I'll never forget that game. Seen some pretty hostile afternoons at the zoo but that one took some beating. I thought that game was refereed by the wondferful Firey Fred Lindop but my memory must be playing tricks. Anyway, a game to remember for all the wrong reasons for us. I always think of the blokes on the Hull bench who were laughing at some of the decisions that went their way.
Oh yes, love the Duke album cover. Their last prog album then the pop crap followed.
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| Hows Russell doing is he still reffing in Oz
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| Quote ="stubblesteve"Hows Russell doing is he still reffing in Oz
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Always amazed me he went reffing in Aus. How did they understand him? Don't remember seeing any subtitles in the NRL.
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| Quote ="Rocky Bobby"Oh Smith was a terrible twunt of a man. Humourless too. Holdsworth was my favourite panto-villain referee. He LOVED reffing and being centre of attention, and would happily banter with frothing fans (my dad included) whenever he was waiting for a controversial try to be converted. Him and my dad struck up quite the rapport over the years.....'"
Bob Jackson once told me that all the players liked Holdsworth as he was fair and wouldn't stand any messing about.
I think most fans hated him for his posturing and flailing arms when indicating a decision.
Always remember him stooping to pick up a water bottle to have a swig just as John Woods was trotting back after kicking a conversion. Woodsy kicked the bottle off the floor about 30 foot down the pitch just as Holdsworth was about to pick it up. Everyone was laughing. Always thought Holdsworth was a decent ref and bloke. Smith was a completely different kind of ref, maybe it's me but I can't remember a decent game he was in charge of. His games were slow and littered with petulant penalties.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Bang on, Rocky. For all his faults (and there were many), Holdsworth wasn't too bad. Pantomime villain sums him up perfectly.
Another on my hatelist would be Gerry Kershaw, nasty scrawny little man.'"
add to that stan wall...more sense out of a brick wall
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Any body remember John Smith from the 80's and early 90's. STREWTH, he hated us. '"
He certainly had something against Warrington, a very bitter man.
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"Was it Phil Ford who had two tries disallowed in the space of about 3 minutes? I'll never forget that game. Seen some pretty hostile afternoons at the zoo but that one took some beating. I thought that game was refereed by the wondferful Firey Fred Lindop but my memory must be playing tricks. Anyway, a game to remember for all the wrong reasons for us. I always think of the blokes on the Hull bench who were laughing at some of the decisions that went their way.
Oh yes, love the Duke album cover. Their last prog album then the pop crap followed.'"
no defo billy thompson..the funny thing about him getting a police escort off the pitch..it just left 2 sets of nutters to have a massive free for all on the pitch and on the terraces which then spilled onto the streets..i remember phil ford having a try chalked off from a ken kelly kick thru which struck a hull player.fordy picked the ball up and scored behind the posts at the fletcher end..even the hull players new it was a try..barsteward
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"Was it Phil Ford who had two tries disallowed in the space of about 3 minutes? I'll never forget that game. Seen some pretty hostile afternoons at the zoo but that one took some beating. I thought that game was refereed by the wondferful Firey Fred Lindop but my memory must be playing tricks. Anyway, a game to remember for all the wrong reasons for us. I always think of the blokes on the Hull bench who were laughing at some of the decisions that went their way.
Oh yes, love the Duke album cover. Their last prog album then the pop crap followed.'"
Yeah, MKC, definately was Biased Billy that day. It was the most BIASED performance I've ever seen, before or since. Wilderspool was full to bursting that day, 11,500 approx in there.
I still remember listening to Radio Manchester that morning, when they announced Hesford had pulled out of the game. GUTTED. Ahh well, at least 'Ull got beat in the final, to stop the RFL's pro Hull stance at the time.
Yeah, DUKE still stands the test of time. Probably their last GREAT album. There's been some high spots since, but a little too commercial for my liking. Ho-hum.
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