One word shocking

some of his decisions tonight were shocking

yeah for both teams

We lost mate. Get over it, we had more penalties than them and didnt do anything with it. The better team on the night won.

Don't blame the ref for the loss, we played a bad game in even worse conditions and the better team on the night Won - Silverwood made some absolute shocking decisions, for both teams... But it wasn't his fault we lost. Eastmond ripped us appart tonight on occasion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's one VERY good player.

not blaming him am i , i said his decisions were shocking tonight ,, we didnt play as good as i would expected ,, saints played better on the night ,, eastmond did ripp us to shreads , just making a point on what a he really his

Which incidents did Silverwood get wrong in particular? There were very few moments where it looked like he made a mistake, but on the whole I thought his control of the game was impressive. Every game has the odd moment of frustration when the ref misses something blatant or you get a 50:50 go the other way, but he didn't have a major influence on the outcome tonight.

A few things to work on for Smith, some credit to Saints for stopping the fightback at the end. The thing about 'the record' is that it will have psychological affects on the players. People like Westwood and Wood have probably lost to Saints 40 times in their careers and possibly never beaten them. That is hard to overcome. But one thing you can bet on is that once it is beaten the floodgates will open and the record will start to be clawed back slowly.

Let me guess, warrington lost?

like i said im not blaming the ref just think half of his decisions were shocking , we dropped ball most of times , saints scored off it fair play but i never said i blamed the ref because we got beat just saying he made some shocking mistakes

Fair enough then

Unlucky chaps.

One or two baffling decisions for both sides, but all the major decisions were correct and he certainly didnt have any influence on the outcome.

I'm not sure on numbers, but I think Warrington were awarded more penalties than us?

On the whole, he did alright in tough conditions.

No im sorry i disagree he had a shocking match and i think he made some realy poo calls in scoreing positions. one example was when two saints players Collided and he gave a penalty to saints saying one was pushed when he clearly wasnt add to that the holding down and 3 knock ons he missed. He is the worse ref in the league and to be quite honest i think the guys bent. I wouldnt say the best team won atall yes wire made some realy poor mistakes and saints scored off them but as a whole i thought we played better than saints and batterd them in defence.

He gave a penalty to Saints because you was offside, it wasent for a 'push'. NO wonder you're not happy. Your making up your own rules.

You're also a very bitter person

I think you would be too if you hadnt beat a team since 1996

yeah caurse im bitter, angry so on and so forth. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a right fibber.

Fair enough

Good to see someone who has the guts to be honest about it. Being from Warrington myself a lot of my mates are Warrington fans who went tonight. Most have text me telling me they're 'not too bothered' when deep down you can tell they are absolutely gutted.

You are 1 tool fella.

Silverwood didn't lose us the game, Eastmond did. His kicking from hand and his place kicking were tremendous. His try was the same as happened at the HJ last season when he ducked under two attempted tacklers and scooted off. It is called creativity, which we seemed to lack for most of the first half.
But back to Silverwood - during a Saints passing movement the ball went through the hands of the receiver and the player on his outside gathered it. It clearly went backwards, yet knock on was given.
Wire kicked through, or off, I can't remember, and a Saints player went to trap the ball with his foot. At which point the balll bounced up and hit his hand, and went forward. Silverwood indicated the ball had gone backwards. There were many puzzling decisions, but I am not blaming the loss on him.
I think Keith Senior was right and should have his money refunded by the RL.

Your the biggest WUM on RLfans

I don't think in 6 years of coming on here I've criticised a referee, but I'm going to now. If that puts me in the 'bad loser' bracket so be it, but I thought he was disgraceful last night, I really did.

I'm not overly fussed on the penalty count, at times decisions are made 80m away from me, so I can't really question if a Warrington player has got a hand in at the ruck when it's driving rain and it's that far away from me. What I would say, is that he was pretty bloody helpful to Saints (in the 1st half particular) everytime they were struggling to clear their lines.

What got me last night was him controlling the tempo of the game, if Saints looked tired (which they did at times) he'd take an age forming the scrum, then it would be fed & re-fed 3 times.

At times, he's looking right at a play, there was one in the scond half where Paul Wood was 'deemed' to have knocked on, when Silverwood was looking right at it, and it was a clear ball steal, clear as hell. He had a perfect view, yet gave the decision against us.

All the other SL refs have bad days, you come home scratching your head, but you feel they have integrity. I can't say that I feel that about him, at all.

The fact that both sets of fans think he was biased against them shows what a reasonable game he had last night

He got some basic calls wrong but overall he was fair

Spot on JWP.

I said exacly the same about the pressure relieving penalties saints got in that first half. There were a also couple of decisions that totally baffled me, the one where Riley and i think Meli went for the high kick to the corner, the ball went dead in goal and the linesman who was stood next to the play gave us a tap on the twenty but Silverwood gave the dropout ..
The other one was Gardner palming the ball dead in goal from a Myler kick.. we were building pressure and forced the repeat set only for silverwood to give saints the tap on the twenty.
He was very poor for both teams but well timed positional penalties hurt a hell of lot.

Saying all that though i think the conditions beat us more last night. yes i know they were the same for saints , but this year we have become an excellent offloading team and it just wasn't possible last night.

silverwood was outstanding last night for saints. also that bit when meli hit the ball dead in the 'in goal area' and they ended up with a
20m restart. magic. he was fair overall but a couple of bad decisions seemed to wrongly change the momentum of the game.

I'd forgotten about the drop-out/20m restart incident, that too was a shocker, over-ruling the linesman who was right next to the play is bad form when there is no screen to go to, these decisions are the reason that they are there on the night. The decision to give a penalty to Saints when no Wire player had been involved in the tackle was also baffling.
But my personal favourite of the night was when he managed to not wipe the tackle count after Pryce had picked up the ball and ran with it at least a few yards before it came free again and a Wire player picked it up.

The man was rubbish last night. That said mind, our kicking game was woeful and for maybe the first time in four games, we truly missed Briers. Whichever team came out on top last night deserved the win, we could not handle Eastmond at times and it showed in the final score.

Other than that, really proud the performance and the support last night, this season is still going to be a good one.

He was right about the tackle when Gidley stonked Gardner in mid-air. Our left side attack was in front of the kicker, Atkins (whose kick chase was fantastic all night) obviously didn't hear and by the time they collided, our players were 2/3 metres away at best.