Strong rumours suggest they are both Widnes bound, we have held back a little on recruitment recently are are hoping to announce a couple of big signings. Anybody heard anything from your end regards this? Penny was very good for us last year on loan and with Monas and Higham both on board for Warrington will Clarke be seeing much action?

That would fit in with [ithe[/i rumour

Seems to be gathering a bit of momentum recently, Clarke has been offered a deal for player/assistant coach (3 year deal) along with Cullen and Stuart Wilkinson and by all accounts Penny doesnt fit at Warrington but is loved at Widnes.

Will also free up some cap space for you to sign someone?

Wages prob just cover new signings and also likely new improved deals for new internationals and youngsters coming through!

Can only guess if signed Clarke would possibly play 13?

Would be delighted to get KP back as he lit up the club on and off the pitch!

Cant see Smith letting him go tbh, i don't think he will figure as hooker next season more a back rower role

i think that we should have enough cover for the back row next season if Clarke decides to take Widnes up on their offer.
At last count ( and I may have missed some )

Solomona
Westwood
L Anderson
v Anderson
Harrison
Grix
McCarthy
Mitchell
Blythe

Has there actually been an offer or is it another Natters/Ray Chicken load of lies?

Hey Laa, im not making up Clarkey rumours. I merely suggested that he no longer fits in at warrington and its probably in everyones best interests if he goes to pastures new.

Especially if it helps us sign a certain ginger haired player from one of our near neighbours

Don't you ever get sick of talking rubbish? You're now sinking almost as low as Eric Cartman is a Saint. Have you seen any more SL stars looking at houses in Stockton Heath?

Just one more thing, don't call me Laaaa. You don't know me and I am not a Scouser.

You need to

my friend

James Webster?

I'd be very, very surprised to see Penny go. Especially if we're lead to believe that we won't see Hicks again, add this to Carney retiring [it seems we'd only be left with Riley, King & Penny with any SL experience.

Penny would like to go back to Widnes but on dual contract. He's got too much potential for Warrington to let him go completely.

Wonder if TS would give Rhys Evans a chance yet? He did play for Wales in the winter and although he has no experience in SL, Smith could well give him the chance to earn some.

Clarke going wouldn't really hurt us, as has been pointed out he's 3rd choice hooker and the back row is crowded - if he can land a 3yr player / coaching contract it makes good sense for everyone.

Penny on the other hand has the potential to be a great SL winger, and I'd hoped Smith would have kept him for at least 1 more year to see if he can fulfill that potential.

I think you're getting confused ace.

Rhys Williams played for Wales, he's from our academy, bit older, stocky winger, Smyth-esque.

Rhys Evans didn't play I don't think, he was selected in the initial 50 (along with his twin), obviously earmarked as a player with huge potential, for club & country, but I don't think he figured after that. He's only 17 I think.

Words fail me. It's twice I've done that on two seperate threads

, I say a player's name in my head then type somebody else. You're right, chief.

Rhys Griffiths (Clive Griffiths' son) played in the game against England with Rhys Williams as his wingman. Easy to get confused.

i hope we don't sign a young welshman called william griffiths or evan griffiths or we'll end up as confused as ray french if that's possible.

Maybe our new prop is Richard Griffiths

IMO if Penny doesn't get his act together then he wont get a new contract...has he got another 1 or 2 years?

JWP's love affair with Penny could be over in the not too distant future unless he is prepared to start following Widnes or Leigh.

As for Hicks surely pre season training starts in the near future so we should know soon whether these rumours are true or not.

I'll be very disappointed if Penny leaves permanently. It wasn't so long ago that "The New Martin Offiah" had us all thrilled with what we'd unearthed.

His confidence was badly affected by a few poor performances but I really hope he gets a bit more time before being consigned to the "not good enough" pile for good.

Hearing some of our fans screaming abuse at him when he desperately needed support sickened me at times last season.

I think he's got 2010 & 2011, so two years left.

What will I do if he does go eh, the love affair over, sniff. I'll probably just spend some time around horses, and whizz the picture off to loadsa' birds.

There's no love affair, I just appreciate his talents. I don't want King on the wing who couldn't outrun Malcolm Alker, I want the exciting kid, with pace to burn, that's all. He's exciting.

Pace is exciting but it needs a brain to coordinate and execute it properly especially when ball handling/timing and positioning is required too.

Unfortunately im not sure Kev has both attributes which is sad cos he is indeed very quick.

Lets hope Sir Tony Smith can work his magic and that Kev turns into the player we all wish he was.