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| if u were smith who would u buy matt orford or Richie Myler
id pick Richie Myler because hes good and only 18 years old
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| Quote ="tom4wire"if u were smith who would u buy matt orford or Richie Myler
id pick Richie Myler because hes good and only 18 years old'"
aye matt orford's not any good is he.
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| If we could get Myler that'd be ace. But we can't and won't.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"aye matt orford's not any good is he.'"
Are you scottish?
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| Quote ="RL Lover"Are you scottish?'"
why don't you ask me that on the murrayfield thread?
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| Quote ="tom4wire"if u were smith who would u buy matt orford or Richie Myler
id pick Richie Myler because hes good and only 18 years old'" Simple answer is BUY BOTH !
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| myler, quality and young
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"aye matt orford's not any good is he.'"
So much for welcoming newcomers (or Johnny Come Latelys using Hitman's vernacular)
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| Quote ="Wires71"So much for welcoming newcomers (or Johnny Come Latelys using Hitman's vernacular)'"
Nom de plumes don't count.
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| Myler, he's young, English and wouldn't swallow huge amounts of salary cap.
Not seen Orford play this year but as other people are saying it'd be nice to move away from signing a different Aussie halfback every couple of years, most of which turn out to be poop.
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| Everyone who wants Orford have forgot about when he used us to bump up his last contract i gather?
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| Quote ="Wires71"So much for welcoming newcomers (or Johnny Come Latelys using Hitman's vernacular)'"
You remembered me. What a high honour indeed.
Anyhow, to be serious for a moment, it depends on Smith's long-term plan. If, for instance, he sees a halfback at 18 years of age in the Academy/reserves that he thinks could be the tallisman of the club for a decade, but isn't quite ready yet, he would probably bring in someone Orford-esque, in the theory that he could train closely with this kid and his experience would rub off on him,making him a better player when he is ready. There's no point bringing in a 19 year old from another club if you want one already here to step up.
On the other hand, if there isn't anyone here that Smith sees as taking on the long term tallisman role, then he would probably bring in someone to do that. Maybe not Myler, but someone of that mould; young, talented and eager to make a mark on the game/club.*
*Luke Robinson's quotations when leaving Wigan spring to mind there, for some reason.
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| Myler, would be a quarter of the cost of Orford.
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| Myler as I have never seen Orford play
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| Some Manly fans have set up a facebook group asking for Monas to be swapped with Orford immediately, based upon his poor form this season.
An ageing over rated Aussie...... just what we need.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"You remembered me. What a high honour indeed.
Anyhow, to be serious for a moment, it depends on Smith's long-term plan. If, for instance, he sees a halfback at 18 years of age in the Academy/reserves that he thinks could be the tallisman of the club for a decade, but isn't quite ready yet, he would probably bring in someone Orford-esque, in the theory that he could train closely with this kid and his experience would rub off on him,making him a better player when he is ready. There's no point bringing in a 19 year old from another club if you want one already here to step up.
On the other hand, if there isn't anyone here that Smith sees as taking on the long term tallisman role, then he would probably bring in someone to do that. Maybe not Myler, but someone of that mould; young, talented and eager to make a mark on the game/club.*
*Luke Robinson's quotations when leaving Wigan spring to mind there, for some reason.'"
Agreed with that, if we have any talent of our own at halfback in the age range of 15-17 then get Orford over for a couple of years, raise the standards of the first team, start feeding the young lad in and give him game time where he doesn't have to be a dominant partner, then let him hit the ground running when Orford leaves.
If the cupboard is bare then importing a younger upcoming player from outside who is hungry for success will be a smarter move.
BUT - the danger with Myler is that if he is as good as people think he is, he may not necessarily be a much longer term option than Orford, unless Warrington start winning things pronto. Lets say Myler signs a 3 year deal with us, becomes Englands starting halfback but we don't win any trophies. Half way into his second season we start hearing that he wants to join a club which will further his ambitions and he is released with the line "We only want players who are committed to the club....."
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| Both quality players.
Orford would be best in the short term. Simply stay for 2/3years, play a big part in getting Wire to where they want to be, pick up his pay cheque then leave.
Myler on the other hand wont have as big of an impact, but his stay could be long term. A bit like Sean Long of Saints. Long isnt as good as Orford but Long has been at Saints most of his career and has played a big part to where they are now.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"BUT - the danger with Myler is that if he is as good as people think he is, he may not necessarily be a much longer term option than Orford, unless Warrington start winning things pronto. Lets say Myler signs a 3 year deal with us, becomes Englands starting halfback but we don't win any trophies. Half way into his second season we start hearing that he wants to join a club which will further his ambitions and he is released with the line "We only want players who are committed to the club....."'"
Yeh but that's a daft argument. In order for us to step a level above where we have been in the past few years, we are going to have to sign young players with success ahead of them instead of behind them. If we say, no we'd best not do that in case they decide to leave, we'll never get anywhere!
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| non of this will matter coz if we dont snatch myler up soon wigan will get him.
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| They've got Super Sam and Leuluai has just re-signed.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"They've got Super Sam and Leuluai has just re-signed.'"
Wigan + homegrown talent = Huddersfield
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| We're rich, you're not.....get over it.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"We're rich, you're not.....get over it.'"
I know.
We're successful........constantly, so much its boring, you're not.
Get over it.
Tit for tat rocks.
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| And whats the problem discussing Matt orford and Myler as potential signings......?
Especially when Briers is in the last year of his contract and Monaghan is rumoured to be wanting to go home....
should we sit with our heads up our ar$e and hope two replacements appear by magic.........?
We got Matt King away from the NRL when he was one of its star names we got Got Gleeson from a grotty little club down the road when he didnt want to come here.....
we even Got the World greatest player and more media attention than a trophy winning saint helens side......
we can sign whoever we want because we are loaded....... tax man??? bring it on .....and keep the change
signing a 31 year old Matt orford or some kid from Salford isnt exactly like prising Billy slater away from the NRL is it.........
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