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| Well played sir, very well played. This has made my week already ha ha ha ha ha
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| Now they've started another thread warning their fans to watch their backs as we are all out to fight them.
Warning them against fans singing 'Shat Helens'...under the influence at Gladstoneferry... perhaps everyone should have drank soda water.
No mention of Wan key Warrington as the plane flew over though.
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| I hadnt realised that we were playing our noisy neighbours this week - and to be honest, because their kit is red/ white, I tend to get them confused with Wigan.
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| I often wondered why this board attracts a similar array of posts from the usual suspects from St Helens.
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| I don't think red vee posters bother with rlfans tbf.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I don't think red vee posters bother with rlfans tbf.'"
Thought wrong, different aliases. You are too thick and don't have enough brain cells to be aware of that possibility.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thought wrong, different aliases. You are too thick and don't have enough brain cells to be aware of that possibility.'"
I completely get that now it's explained at my level. Thanks.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I completely get that now it's explained at my level. Thanks.'"
Thats OK, for a bit of clarification when I post on RedVee you think I am a Wigan Fan, do you understand where I'm coming from.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats OK, for a bit of clarification when I post on RedVee you think I am a Wigan Fan, do you understand where I'm coming from.'"
I'm not sure...are you still coming in at a thick level?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I'm not sure...are you still coming in at a thick level?'"
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| In fairness, we can’t complain about our friend AS coming here when you’re doing the same on their board. FWIW I dislike their lot as much as the rest. But the plane stunt was just as bad as ‘pie smashing’, we’re in no place to goad them and it’s likely going to come back and sting us come Friday, and once again we look utterly Juan-key.
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| Sighs and we get fed up with As108
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| Quote ="matt_wire"In fairness, we can’t complain about our friend AS coming here when you’re doing the same on their board. FWIW I dislike their lot as much as the rest. But the plane stunt was just as bad as ‘pie smashing’, we’re in no place to goad them and it’s likely going to come back and sting us come Friday, and once again we look utterly Juan-key.'"
Why is likely to come back to sting us?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Why is likely to come back to sting us?'"
How dare we try and promote the game in new ways!
We should get back in our box, clearly. At least if we use the age old strategy of 'hoping people turn up' some Saints planks on a rugby forum wont be able to poke fun at us for having the audacity of promoting the game!
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"How dare we try and promote the game in new ways!
We should get back in our box, clearly. At least if we use the age old strategy of 'hoping people turn up' some Saints planks on a rugby forum wont be able to poke fun at us for having the audacity of promoting the game!'"
As Wire and Saints are way ahead of others does it really need promoting though its most likely to be a full house anyway because Wire are treating this as a really big important game, Saints will just see it as another game that will tick the box towards the play offs, the Saints always go to the HJ in big numbers. Whoever wins the game won't have a reflection on how the form will be when it does come to the play offs the result will just be a reward towards bragging rights for a week or two.
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| And it's that kind of attitude that is killing attendances in this country - basically NO games matter apart from the semis/finals! It's 1st v 2nd and,admittedly in the great scheme of things it might not matter but it still should be built up as a big game regardless. I don't think the stunt from us was anything to come back and bite us - it was harmless and not mocking anyone - unlike the Hull stuff which was daft.
Why the condescending nonsense about this not being a big game for Saints??? If so, then why turn up in great numbers like you do - it's this dismissive arrogance that gets up everyone's noses.
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| Saints are favs giving us a 4 start..for those who wanna win a few quid take saints giving us 4...
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"And it's that kind of attitude that is killing attendances in this country - basically NO games matter apart from the semis/finals! It's 1st v 2nd and,admittedly in the great scheme of things it might not matter but it still should be built up as a big game regardless. I don't think the stunt from us was anything to come back and bite us - it was harmless and not mocking anyone - unlike the Hull stuff which was daft.
Why the condescending nonsense about this not being a big game for Saints??? If so, then why turn up in great numbers like you do - it's this dismissive arrogance that gets up everyone's noses.'"
For us the big game(s) will be in the play offs or the Challenge Cup if we get there or if we have to win our last super league game for the LLS. We always turn up at HJ in great numbers because the style of play of the 2 clubs is the attraction and most likely to be an entertaining one. Its a much bigger game for Wire because they are playing catch up and they are not giving up on that challenge.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"As Wire and Saints are way ahead of others does it really need promoting though its most likely to be a full house anyway because Wire are treating this as a really big important game, Saints will just see it as another game that will tick the box towards the play offs, the Saints always go to the HJ in big numbers. Whoever wins the game won't have a reflection on how the form will be when it does come to the play offs the result will just be a reward towards bragging rights for a week or two.'"
I'm not sure this game would sell out from a Warrington perspective without the additional push - I'm not confident it will sell out with it. How much would the promotion have cost? I couldn't honestly say, so it's difficult to determine cost effectiveness. The club don't seem to be doing the open press conference this time around which is a shame (they did vs Wigan) - possibly they are looking at how well these things work in isolation before introducing them to all big games.
It's too simplistic to think of it as the impact just in terms of the attendance, there were probably 100k+ people watching that Saints game on Sky, more bums on armchairs is important too - this sort of thing can attract fans of other clubs to tune in, important given how close the TV contract renewal is. Warrington are all about building the event this season for each game, and increasing awareness around the town. I've had mates send me Twitter posts with videos on, some of them aren't even RL fans, so it shows it is working to a degree. Maybe with enough repeated exposure, some will be influenced to take in a game - it's all about building the perception of the event and how important it is, make people not want to miss out.
Getting more people talking about the sport in the town, and in St Helens (especially those who aren't as bought in to the sport / club as we are), has to be a good thing? It's intangible to a degree, but we need to raise awareness.
At least they are doing something.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Saints are favs giving us a 4 start..for those who wanna win a few quid take saints giving us 4...'"
I don't bet against my team.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"As Wire and Saints are way ahead of others does it really need promoting though its most likely to be a full house anyway because Wire are treating this as a really big important game, Saints will just see it as another game that will tick the box towards the play offs, the Saints always go to the HJ in big numbers. Whoever wins the game won't have a reflection on how the form will be when it does come to the play offs the result will just be a reward towards bragging rights for a week or two.'"
ok, scratch what you've just said there, and think about when the SL chiefs go and sit down with the Sky folks for the next TV deal and they ask what attendances are like, and what viewing figures are like, would you rather mcmanus to say "we got 10k for this game, 13k for this game" or would you rather he say " we got 5-8 sellouts, and were turning ppl away which probably was reflected in your viewing figures BECAUSE THEY WERE MARKETED AS BIG GAMES. That's what we're trying to do
You lot need to get off your bloody high horses and stop talking down to us, cos if we don't all pull in together, there will be no sky deal and no central funding and no super league. Though granted based on saints fans current attitudes you'll be taking the cos we didn't win the league before the competition went bust.
Think about the bigger picture guy.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"ok, scratch what you've just said there, and think about when the SL chiefs go and sit down with the Sky folks for the next TV deal and they ask what attendances are like, and what viewing figures are like, would you rather mcmanus to say "we got 10k for this game, 13k for this game" or would you rather he say " we got 5-8 sellouts, and were turning ppl away which probably was reflected in your viewing figures BECAUSE THEY WERE MARKETED AS BIG GAMES. That's what we're trying to do
You lot need to get off your bloody high horses and stop talking down to us, cos if we don't all pull in together, there will be no sky deal and no central funding and no super league. Though granted based on saints fans current attitudes you'll be taking the mickey cos we didn't win the league before the competition went bust.
Think about the bigger picture guy.'"
Boom
Did I like that post!
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I'm not sure this game would sell out from a Warrington perspective without the additional push - I'm not confident it will sell out with it. How much would the promotion have cost? I couldn't honestly say, so it's difficult to determine cost effectiveness. The club don't seem to be doing the open press conference this time around which is a shame (they did vs Wigan) - possibly they are looking at how well these things work in isolation before introducing them to all big games.
It's too simplistic to think of it as the impact just in terms of the attendance, there were probably 100k+ people watching that Saints game on Sky, more bums on armchairs is important too - this sort of thing can attract fans of other clubs to tune in, important given how close the TV contract renewal is. Warrington are all about building the event this season for each game, and increasing awareness around the town. I've had mates send me Twitter posts with videos on, some of them aren't even RL fans, so it shows it is working to a degree. Maybe with enough repeated exposure, some will be influenced to take in a game - it's all about building the perception of the event and how important it is, make people not want to miss out.
Getting more people talking about the sport in the town, and in St Helens (especially those who aren't as bought in to the sport / club as we are), has to be a good thing? It's intangible to a degree, but we need to raise awareness.
At least they are doing something.'"
I think you might be right about it not being a sell out, is there some sort of Walking Day in Warrington on Friday that might mean quite a few staying in the pubs later and watching the game from there.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"ok, scratch what you've just said there, and think about when the SL chiefs go and sit down with the Sky folks for the next TV deal and they ask what attendances are like, and what viewing figures are like, would you rather mcmanus to say "we got 10k for this game, 13k for this game" or would you rather he say " we got 5-8 sellouts, and were turning ppl away which probably was reflected in your viewing figures BECAUSE THEY WERE MARKETED AS BIG GAMES. That's what we're trying to do
You lot need to get off your bloody high horses and stop talking down to us, cos if we don't all pull in together, there will be no sky deal and no central funding and no super league. Though granted based on saints fans current attitudes you'll be taking the mickey cos we didn't win the league before the competition went bust.
Think about the bigger picture guy.'"
Talking of high horses do you really think a plane with a banner 3000 feet high is going to attract a significant number of extra fans to the game, for us it was just throwing money at it with a gimmick. Maybe your club think to get a better super league deal you have to look up towards the SKY when they are actually grounded. Wire are putting more effort into promoting more than other clubs but others like McManus look at other ways in branding for example.
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