Firstly, well done Wigan (spits). The best side won.

Our "pack" are too lightweight. Bar Hill, did we gain ANY metres through leg drive. Wigan MULLERED us, in this department. We're powderpuff, in comparison.

Some dumb decisions. Iirc, didn't Atkins have his winger unmarked, when he went "over". Glory boy.

We've lost 4 of our last 9 games. Not good.

.......and, most controversially, MY GOD, WE'RE DULL.

Smith has coached EVERY BIT of attractive rugby, OUT of this side. From 2010 to 2013, we've played some of the most exhilarating RL, I've ever seen. Since then, he's wrung all creativity out us, to the point that I'm bored to tears.
All we had in the first half, was endless scoots from dummy half. TEDIUM.
The second half (bar a couple of tackles) was like watching a fish finger defrost.

Yes, Smith has been our best coach since Murphy left, by a country mile, but if he resigned tonight, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. As someone said as I was leaving, we play joyless rugby. I couldn't agree more.
I go to the match to be entertained. This is the rl equivalent of 80's Italian football, dull, but (more often than not) effective.

You will upset some on here Lefty because I have judging by some of the responses to my posts.

All season I've said we need some quality props and was told about how Sims does all the little things well and gets a quick play the ball. Someone even derided me for saying Farrell was far superior to Hughes...

Bar Hill, Clarke, Currie and very occasionally Westerman the pack lacks quality and go forward.

Whilst we are at it can anyone else see that Ryhs Evans offers NOTHING in attack and cannot make opportunities for his winger.

I think a few of us see this

I think a few of us see this

To contradict that AA advert from the 80/90's.......I know a man who can't.

Evans is probably the worst attacking player I have ever seen be a regular SL centre.

He is just so clueless in attack it is painful to watch. In his head it is an achievement to catch the ball and be tackled. I have never seen him beat a defender with footwork, hit a good line or make a decent pass.

Cooper and Crosby should make a big difference to our pack, George king runs it in like a fairy.

If Wigan had swapped places with Hull kr and gone down, which players would you take from that 17 tonight. ....
I'd have gelling for evans and farrell for jack hughes. And nuisalla for any prop except hill.

But that's it.

Quite shocking really. ...

Bateman for any of them

.. and there goes the Monkey Man factor, biscuit.
He gets his players to crawl over broken glass for him. To me, Smith just says "give it a go, lads. If we're losing, I'll get Stuart Pearce to growl at you.

Couldn't agree more with your player analysis, too.
I'd swap Evans for anything. Tackles well, but that's it. Reminds me of a modern day Carl Gibson (bang average GB centre, 20 odd years ago). Hughes, as good as he is for us, is just the reincarnation of Gary Sanderson. Won't let you down, but don't expect owt else. And you're right. We only have one (proper) prop, at the club.

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What point ate you trying to make?

Bateman, curlylocks, Charnley, Farrell, gelling, Williams and most of wigans forwards would walk into our team.

Smiths problem is he hasn't brought in or through enough quality
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God, I'm peed off.

A big glass of red, and two huge brandies later, I'm seriously effed off
I forget about losses relatively quickly (within the hour, normally), but this is showing us for what we are..not good enough, at the business end of the season.

Again this is a myth. He has the 3rd highest missed tackles in the squad at 46/375 +12%. So cannot attack and suspect defence.
I think we can improve on the position and give him to the chance to see if he gets a SL gig with any other side or whether he will go the way of Riley.

I'm afraid that the additions of Cooper and Crosby will not turn us into world beaters either. I hope we have got some real quality signings up our sleeve.

If the Warrington team need some motivation for 2017 they only need watch this video. https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 155184575/

If the Warrington team need some motivation for 2017 they only need watch this video. https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 155184575/

I can't disagree with any of that, and I know a few of us have said we need to play finals football i.e. Not to much gung Ho stuff.. But Christ that was another level of dire tonight ,we barely got the ball wide at all in the first half. It was slightly better in the second when Sandow came on. Which brings me to my next point if Sandow was fit and Smith wanted him involved he should have started ... The fact that he occupied the bench taking the place of another forward screwed us to the floor we were seriously outgunned in the pack ...

I honestly feel a coach change would be be beneficial. To us

You can watch Gidley's miss tackle here on Farrell and Evans deserting his centre position (and Gildart) and chasing the wrong player and tell me we didn't switch off. https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 808515543/

You can watch Gidley's miss tackle here on Farrell and Evans deserting his centre position (and Gildart) and chasing the wrong player and tell me we didn't switch off. https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 808515543/

I'm happy with the Cooper signing he's a quality prop, But a Wigan cast off in Crosby and also Matty Blythe?? I'm sorry but we need to be aiming higher..

I think after thousands of hours and thousands of pounds I might just about be done tonight. We finished that match tonight without one local player on the pitch.

When we will learn what makes a team?

Couldn't agree more with this. Totally devoid of quality in the backs and if Matty Blythe is the answer to Evans total lack of quality then I really despair.

Having said that the quality across the board in SuperLeague is utterly woeful.

If I'd been neutral watching that last night I'd have turned it off. Mind numbingly dull and lacking in any invention whatsoever.

I said at half time in the Saints game even if we win the GF it's time for change. If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got. It's time for a coaching change. This seasons games have been dull to watch

We have not had a bad season. We have been within inches (literally) of winning all three domestic trophies, and have come away with one of them. If the wind was blowing in a different direction we may of had two or all three.
Only changes I would make are a replacement for Rhys Evans and a lifetime ban for Ryan Bailey in and around the Warrington area.

Don't take this the wrong way, but some of you need some perspective.

Reading the comments on here it sounds like you've just been relegated.

Well as the title of the thread says I might upset some now but in my own opinion a clearout is needed.Bailey for a start.Gave him the benefit of the doubt at the start of the season but injuries aside no good likewise Evans.Ship him off to Swinton like Smith did to Penny see if that can buck his ideas up + as for Sims well we're stuck with him but for me offers nothing except all huff + puff.As for Sandow wouldn't bother me if as expected he goes back as Patton has outplayed him lately to cement his place in the team + I'd give Lineham a few more game time then if no improvement pack his bags + lastly + hate so say it but think Smith has done his time here as Lefty said our best chance by far to win this with the other teams well below expectations + once again we've choked.Cheque book time Simon or we''ll be forever remembered as the Warrington bottlers.

We've had Dodds and Harrison out all season and boy has it shown, most weeks we've looked soft in the front row. Westwood Currie and Grix, signed Cox but nowhere to be seen back end of the season. Bailey's played about three hours of rugby all season.

We've lacked size since day one and we paid for it last night, nowhere near powerful enough!