What would everybody's England team be for the series against New Zealand?

I would go with:

Hardaker
Hall
Watkins
Reed
J Burgess
S Tomkins
Widdop
Hill
Roby
Graham
Whitehead
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Reps: T Burgess Walmsley Clark Cooper

O'Loughlin's inclusion baffles me, what has he done this season? He rarely plays! He only seems to bother putting his kit on when there is something on the line. He doesn't deserve it. I have put in Westwood which can be seen as dodgy but at least he plays and runs his blood to water.

Hardaker.
Hall. Reed. Watkins. McGillvary.
S. Tomkins. Brough.
Hill. Roby. Walmsley.
Bateman. Westwood.
Cuthbertson (Don't condone it but they're gonna do it anyway then whatever)

Graham. Clark. Ferres. Peacock.

Brough is captain of Scotland and Peacock is now retired fella, I do like the idea of Tomkins in the halves though I've always thought we should do that.

Nice to see neither team has MICKEY MC from Wigan, wane rings into the Thursday Manchester rugby phone in each week to tell them he's the best thing since slice bread. Old ground this but can't stand the guy

Mine would be:
Hardaker
McGillvary Watkins Reed Hall
STomkins Widdop

Cuthbertson
Whitehead Bateman
Graham Roby Hill

Clark or Hodgson(who's been a stand out hooker in the NRL this season), TBurgess Walmsley Cooper

Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Reed
Hall
Tomkins
Widdop
Graham
Roby
Cuthbertson
Currie
Bateman
O'Loughlin

Hodgson
Hill
Walmsley
Ferres

Hardaker
Hall
Watkins
Reed
McGillvary
Tomkins
Widdop
Hill
Roby
Graham
Westwood
Currie
O'Loughlin

Walmsley
Clark
T Burgess
Bateman

Does no one see Luke Gale playing at 7 then?

Hardaker
McGillvary
Cudjoe
Watkins
Hall
Tomkins
Gale
Hill
Roby
Graham
Ferres
Bateman
O'Loughlin

Clark
Widdop
Walmsley
T Burgess

interested at the inclusion of tomkins,

I think we're shooting ourselves in the foot of we don't play Tomkins. He will be a feature for England in future tournaments, so play him.

Westwood is behind a million in the pecking order, including Currie.

I think it will be:

Hardaker
Burgess Watkins Reed Hall
Widdop Tomkins
Graham Roby Hill
Ferres Whitehead
O'Loughlin

Clark Bateman Cuthbertson T Burgess

With McGilvray, Turner, Shenton, Gale, Walmsley, Cooper, Hodgson, Farrell, Ward and Currie the others in the squad.

Tomkins
Lineham
Watkins
Turner
Burgess
Widdop
Gale
Hill
Roby
Graham
Whitehead
Westwood
Bateman

T Burgess, Walmsley, Clark, hardaker

I find it staggering that people aren't picking Jermaine McGillvary!

Each to their own though I suppose.

Maybe, but i don't agree with shoe horning him in a half back spot, where he's not played for umpteen years, just because he's not been good enough to get in at fullback, where hardaker when he's not slapping students has been bloody good.

Widdop deserves to keep hold of his shirt, and Gale deserves a chance to run alongside him.

McGillvary has been the form winger this season with others in and out of form or injured, deserves a place.

I'd have him in the side along with Cudjoe and Luke Gale but we all know McNamara likes to compose his side from Leeds, Wigan and the NRL. Players from 'unfashionable' clubs generally get overlooked, however good their form has been.

Cudjoe over Reed? Interesting.

When I've watched NRL this year (which I admit isn't a huge amount) I've haven't seen much about Reed to get that excited about. Cudjoe is a solid defender and makes a very good partnership with McGillvary. I think they've done enough in our league to deserve consideration..... which probably means neither will get selected

Ah I see, in that case then -

Hardaker.
Hall. Reed. Watkins. McGillvary.
S. Tomkins. Gale.
Hill. Roby. Walmsley.
Bateman. Westwood.
Cuthbertson (Don't condone it but they're gonna do it anyway then whatever)

Graham. Clark. Ferres. T. Burgess.

People omitting Josh Hodgson at hooker is a scandal. ..One of the standout hookers in the nrl and has an all round better game than Roby.

The best thing Roby has done this year is to get into the dream team. ....Unfortunately Hodgson's form will mean no place for Darryl Clark.

I get the impression that Roby will be in for shoulder surgery on Monday morning. Every game I have seen him play he has been having problems with his left arm. I am surprised that nobody has picked Whitehead in the second row.
In a selfish way I hope that no wire players get anywhere near the squad. Hill has played too many games and Ratch and Clarke look like they need a decent off season. I heard Phil Clarke mention that we have been suffering from unexplained underperfomance syndrome which I thought was a crock but when you actually look into it it sort of makes sense. I think we need to get the aussies back early and get all the players back at training together early. Last year our full squad probably did not train together until mid Jan due to internationals and woody did a runner to add more problems.
Give all the caps to Leeds, Wigan and saints and let them have the pre season disturbance. I think this could have a big impact on Leeds next season.

Sorry. Just read a few have mentioned Whitehead.

Roby has been incredible this year again.

Rumours that quite a few players are going to miss this series. It's said Hardaker will manage the semi and a possible final if Leeds get there but will need ACL surgery. Walmsley is rumoured to be well and truly done and being brought back for the semi as a desperate roll of the last chance saloon dice and he'll miss out too. Tomkins too is said to not want to play as he wants to be fit for next year and Wakins the same. Roby clearly has a problem with his arm/shoulder but will no doubt finish the season for Saints before visiting a doctor as they always do.

How much of the above is true is of course outside of my knowledge but I doubt you'll see all those who should be available sticking their hands up for this one.

He's been [ireally[/i good hasn't he? Arguably one of the best hookers in the competition.

A player staying home and staying fit whilst the rest of the team go on their end of season holidays is usually an indicator of whether they'll get picked for the national side, and Daryl went to Ibiza last week. So Roby and Hodgson it is, which I've no qualms with.