Seeing everyone moaning and calling for heads on sticks is getting really boring now.

Does nobody else keep bringing themselves back to the same question?

1. When have we ever been all guns blazing in the first half of the season? Smith is not an idiot, he knows when to peak us, therefore I have full confidence in him that he will peak us come the business end.

Win tomorrow and we could potentially be third by the end of the day should results go our way and its all gravy on this forum again.

This has happened every season since 2012 where we have not performed at the start well enough at the start, wait until the pitches dry up and their will be some serious servings of humble pie.

That is all...

Dry pitches don't account for

poor halfbacks
no kicking game
bad discipline
bad form

I, and many others appreciate your optimism, but simply saying (in as many words) that "it'll all get better in the end" simply doesn't wash.
We need performances from the players, not an agronomist.

If we want to be in the 4 this season I'm not sure you can save yourselves to be honest.

And since 2012 we've done poor by our own high standards other than a CC win that so happened to be in the rain!

The teams that want to win the title will have to up the ante this year with just a top four play off & a bigger prize for the end of season table toppers....teams that can avoid & manage injuries will do well .

hope we do win or there will be more flak dished out on here and your post may get dragged up...

I'm sorry, but if you think that this season is comparable to slow starts in recent years gone by, you are only kidding yourself. 2012, for example the problem was keeping hold of the new Rhino football, however the class was there to get us through. See the televised game at Odsal which we narrowly won, for example.

Also, the new league structure means we can no longer dismiss as many games as meaningless. When you consider Cup weekends, the split is fast approaching and we want to secure four home games- ideally avoid an August trip to Perpignan too. The elongated playoffs will be incredibly tough and we don't want to go into it on the back foot.

The issue here is people are struggling to see where the improvement will come from. Being critical, does not make you any less of a 'true fan' than the eternal optimist who will never say a bad word. We all have the best interests of the club at heart and invest a significant chunk of money on following the Wire. If we can't debate and critique, what is the point in following a sport?

You speak for yourself!

Mike don't worry , you WILL be in the 4 at the end of the season ,the 4 that drop into the Middle 8s



see you at the LSV later this year.

For only 25 minutes. And during that time Leeds got back into it. Luckily it cleared up after half time, and then we went back on the offensive.

It's not a case of 'all gravy in this forum' and 'humble pie', members on this site are simply expressing opinions based on what has been witnessed on the pitch, no more no less. It would be a pretty sorry state of affairs if there was no debate to be had. I for one hope we do turn things around, why the hell wouldn't I?!

I agree with your post but on here the most vocal critics of our current performances are open about how they no longer go to games. So they're literally just here to moan.

All on that bone dry pitch eh?

At the end of the day, WRLFC is a business, not a religion or cult. If customers are unhappy and/or spending their money elsewhere, the club needs to look at why.

Well, it wasn't exactly a mudbath either.....

In those other seasons though were you the 2nd lowest points scorers above only Hull???

The lack of points scored by a Tony Smith team is quite alarming. His teams could score points regardless.

That's right - what every rugby league team REALLY NEEDS is a good dose of Alan-Sugar-style leadership and corporate governance and the trophies will just come rolling in. Like Tottenham under Alan Sugar, in fact.

Widnes was a muddy pit of a place. I hope it recovers.

Having a quick scan after a night out, regardless of what has happened I'll be there later on and I think for the first time ever we actually need Richie Myler, a natural half back who can release the ball quickly.

Get behind the boys!

And every forum needs a bloke that thinks he's funny, but, isn't, a job you seem to fill quite admirably.

On this forum there are more than one.

All Godfisher is saying is keep the faith the club is on sound foundations while giving us reasons to be cheerful part one, while understandably the concerns are genuine the way our gripes are going we will be blaming the groundsman next.

True enough, but, this particular comedic genius is supposedly on the site's admin team and has had over 23,000 posts to hone his skills...it appears that he has wasted his time. Poor trolling at best and we deserve better

Bone dry pitch, today

two consecutive days of temperatures in the late teens C

Ideal conditions


tosh, tosh, tosh

All bone dry pitches are going to do for this team is help the opposition run straight through the middle of us, which cas did time and time again.