Said it weeks ago and a reminder to the ones who slagged off my post
ITS GOING TO BE A LONG LONG SEASON
Wire were woeful
No gameplan
No creativity
No flare
No organisation
No concentration
And nearly no points !
And I'm afraid no halfback partnership
The pack is light but worked their socks off maybe that's not good enough but I think they laid the foundation to win that game but our backs are woeful
If TS is happy with this setup take off the rose coloured specs
We should have bought big in the close season either we are skint or too arrogant to think this team is good enough
Don't bark on about its early doors yet for goodness sake this is it folk and I don't think it will get much better
This is a transitional period and probably the next 2/3 seasons are going to be frustrating so hold onto your faith if you have any left!!
Best part of last night , the ball boy coming on ..... Picked up the ball carried it 15 metres and didn't drop it !!
Simples!!

To be fair we lost Briers in October unexpectedly, difficult to recruit a quality half in a few months. I'd rather we wait a year and recruit quality than bring in any one to fill a gap.

Dobson for 2015.....?

I suspect Warrington have something planned. Your ins and outs didn't marry up when Briers left. You aren't a million miles away though, you remind me of Saints over the last couple of seasons. If you put Luke Walsh and Alex Walmsley into that team for example you'd be a very different side.

Is it worth a season of pain if you've got a top Aussie 7 and 8 lined up for next year?

as above. Briers replacement will be lined up for next season. And for all the people writing us off for this season they are being very premature as there is still plenty of quality.

I knew the minute Briers retired we were in for a difficult season, which compounded the loss of Morley, Carvell & Hodgson especially from a leadership perspective.

I just hope that the current performers; Hill, Westwood et al dont pick up any significant injuries, otherwise we'll be lucky to win more than we lose this season.

Time for Mr Smith to earn his money.

Is he still the man? He doesn't seem particularly enthused at the moment?

Tony Smith has never given me the impression that he is ever enthusiastic.

Rugby League is not about performing now but at the end of the season. We all know this yet some are writing off the season now, yes we are playing crap but that does not mean we will not be fighting for trophy's at the end of the season, After the last 5 years how can anyone question Tony Smith after 3 defeats against Leeds, siants and wigan in the first 6 games. Go home do your homework and watch newsround.

We will be fighting for the cup and playoffs as more as any one else, its just going to take a few weeks maybe months, we werent great at start of last season either only hitting form after we losr to Hull FC, by the end of March last year we had lost 3 and draw 1.

We have lost our No 1 and No 6 plus two go to props, even if 3 of the 4 missed chunks of last season anyway its still massive to go without all 4 this year getting Russell back fit at 1. is huge for us, he adds much needed speed to the backline and allows Ratchford and whoever to form a bond at 6 and 7 which takes time.

Can I just point to those making comments like "we all know it's only the last few weeks of the season that matter" that this is patently NOT the case anymore.

We may well be in playoff contention come the business end of the season, but this year we'll be coming up against sides who are fighting to avoid the trapdoor and for their very survival and not, as in previous years, teams coasting through to their end of season holidays.

Woeful is a bit strong seeing as we only conceded 12 points.

That may be a justified post Yed if Wigan wasn't so poor themselves!

bit harsh, remember they are champions, as the Wigan fans reminded us last night.

That may be a justified post TF if Warrington wasn't Grand Finalists themselves.

The biggest problem we have is that our experienced players, who need to be setting examples, are playing absolutely dreadful - The likes of Glenn Riley and Laithwaite must feel completely lacking of confidence, simply because they are seeing the senior players under-performing and it will undoubtedly impact the youngsters' own form.

We have two centres who are stealing a living, along with a scrum half who shouldn't be even playing at this level if that's all he can do on a pitch (very little).

I was never a massive fan of Nathan Wood, but Myler needs to watch a few videos of him, just to show what can be done even if you aren't the most naturally talented player in the world.

I would describe our performance as frustrating rather than woeful. We weren't far off, wigans defence was very good but we definitely didn't ask enough questions of them and bombed some good position with a lack of structure. Defence was ok forwards fronted up very well too.

I'd describe it as garbage and I think some people are deluding themselves. SOME of the forwards fronted up well, some were abysmal, defence was good in places, some players are defending like strangers.

Finally the attack. We didn't bomb anything - that implies we made half chances and blew them by forcing passes or ignoring overlaps. We didn't - we engineered nothing even with a wealth of possession and territory in the final 20 against a tiring, average team.

and to only score 4 that is woeful,,and it came gift wrapped from a wigan pass not of our own doing

Spot on - The forwards actually made good yards, probably more than Wigan, yet after 3 good drives our half backs were nowhere to be seen to be able to create and bring our backs into the game, whereas Wigan did have the talent to at least bring their three quarters into the game on the back of some decent ball.

If Myler/Ratchford/O'Brien is our half back choice for the full season, then we are in for a very mediocre time.

And if our only threat from Myler is a bomb, then for Christ sake attempt to get some snow on it!

Chris bridge bombed 2 chances in the last 10 when despite the fact that we had been at best dysfunctional in attack we were still in with a chance. We had good territory after Russell came on, why Myler waited until then to put some decent kicks in I will never know. Like I said before very frustrating to me.

I'll take your word for it. I must have been examining some interesting pocket fluff or wondering when I last descaled the kettle during these half-chances.

Must have been.

Stealing a living certainly applies to Mr Asotasi.Not really an NRL watcher so can someone enlighten me on his reputation over in Aus as it looks as though he's on a holiday from what i've seen.

Anyone who has watched Asotasi closely will know that his last good season was about 4 years ago. It is an awful signing.