these 2 clowns never change they are always against wire every 50 50 is against us
with these cretins it is so obvious
i was in corporate hospitality today and a couple of points of interest today
why on earth is smith releasing gaz carvell ? talking to him after the game he does not
want to leave so why release him ?
also what did waterhouse do today compared to benny ?

Agree on Carvell but other than that I think you should lay off the moet and prawn sandwiches. Fans of every club think that Sky hate them, it is part of the RL mentality. Clarkey comes in for all the criticism for 'hating' Warrington yet if you actually listen to him he praises us more than any other pundit I can think of. Stevo is a Dewsbury lad and to suggest that he loves Leeds (as many do) is ridiculous. Several times he said to me last August that he would be cheering for us at Wembley, but don't let common sense get in the way of a good old rant.

I agree, Clarke has been up our backsides since the Cullen era when he used to always go on about how 'on our day' we played as good rugby as Saints.

On Carvell I expect it was salary cap pressures and Bradford being willing to offer him more than us for a 2 year deal but I agree with you I wish he was still here next year and I think most of our fans think the same.

Thing is, he might mention four or five teams during commentary, the minute he mentions Wigan he gets up in arms. Immature really!

dave chisnall broke stevos jaw in 1974 ccsemi at wigan but my mane gripe is gresion 20 hemmings
was told after the game smith does not like him and carvell is so fit he could play on for at least
2 years and have you seen the overseas replacement for him he is pants

Asotasi, I wouldn't call him pants to his face after watching him!
As for Carvell, we wouldn't have givin him a 2yr deal. Although he has hit some form, he has spent quite a bit of the last 2 seasons out with injuries.
Its the direct replacement for Morley were waiting on with abaited breath!!??

Please go easy on Mssrs Hemmings and Stephenson. They'd both been told their dogs had been shot, just when Briers had his moment of madness, hence their lack of enthusiasm for all things Warrington. The fact that they brought this matter up every 2 minutes, was just frustration to the loss of their well loved pooches. The toys also went out of the pram, when Mr Hemmings wanted Paul Wood sent off for a first half shoulder charge

There was also tragedy in the Wells household. Poor Jon had just been informed that his pet parrot "Polly" had escaped the family home, when a window had been left open. This explains his anger, whilst explaining the non legitimacy of Westwood's try under the post, in his half-time analysis.

Mr Clark's Wigan based zoo has been shut down, which explains his tone of voice, whenever Warrington scored. Poor Phil.

It must be remarked that Shaun McRea suffered no such animal tragedies whilst commentating on today's game, although he did say he wanted to eat a couple of wildebeast as a half-time snack

It was that bad yesterday I turned the volume down, and put the radio on.

Then watching the sin tellins Eddie was banging on about Briers. Give it up man.

Must admit rather enjoyed Sam Tomkins talking about the game.

Must admit I actually like the TV version in S Tomkins, it's just the on pitch one I can't stand.

Yesterday was ridiculous, watching the game back they just didn't stop going on about the punch for the whole 80 minutes and Eddie was still going on about it at half time in the other game.

In my experience, every paranoid fan of every club in every sport is convinced the media hate their team and love their biggest rivals. It's not true so get over yourselves.

I don't have Sky and although I stream the odd match online I don't pay attention to what any of them have to say. It's not really very important.

Surely it isn't beyond the techies that, via the red button, we could just hear the noise of the spectators ? I've, for a long time now watched games on Sky with the sound muted. Total silence is preferable to the inane ramblings of the *expert* commentators.

I haven't got sky sports so was it possible to hear any ref's remarks when he had Briers & Sinfield together following the incident ? Was there any mention of provocation by Ablett & i don't think it was even put on report was it ?

I didn't see it put on report and I was looking. But our website does say it was.

Here is the extract from the website:
'Briers then took exception to a tackle by Carl Ablett who appeared to bring him down by his shirt and a melee ensued; referee James Child put the incident on report'

You can hear Childs on the ref mic when he's talking to the touch judges about the incident. He says something like 'there was no contact?' asking them ( I presume ) if they agreed with him that Briers's attempted punch had not landed. The touchies did not demur so he must have ruled 'no contact', the same thing that gets many a player off a 'swinging arm' offence.

+1

Did he though? I didn't see the crossed arm signal.

The annoying thing about Stevo yesterday was his consistancy in his ramblings about forward passes..!

The first Leeds try had a blantant forward pass leading up to it (not mentioned by Stevo)...Then the second Leeds try had two highly questionable passes in that piece of play (Stevo mentioned one of them)...

As for the Briers moment of madness i would love to know what Ablett said to Briers to make him react like that only the second time in his career ive seen it the other against Jason Hooper who stuck the forearm in his face after he'd kicked..

If the shoulder charge was introduced back then, Jason Hooper would have broken the record for the most number of sinbinnings/penalties conceded in a season. It's quite ironic that he retired because of a shoulder injury considering he always used to use it to hit kickers late.

don't think it was put on report but there was mention of it being picked up by the disciplinary anyway, what is it with Ablett that makes relatively placid players want to plant one on him? i reckon he must come from the same snide school of sh*thouse tactics as Bailey, although i have heard that off the pitch Bailey is quite a likable bloke.

I would have thought it might be because 95% of the time he is always offside at the play the ball, but the most obvious answer is because he's a s***house.

Latest Sky commentators update.

When he got home, he went straight to his shed. He got out all those "Briers for Britain" badges he had made in the mid 2000's, marker penned out Britain, and wrote Borstal
Eddie awoke at 3:30 in a hot sweat, shouting "I'll 'ave you Briers" in a Blakey from On The Buses stylee.
He's just been seen in Morrison's. An old lady was struggling to get a tin of cat food from the top shelf. Eddie helped the old dear in her hour of need. As he passed her the tin of meaty chunks, he said "that Briers is a bad lot, isn't he love".
He's just booked Easyjet to Rome. There's some Argentinian bloke called Pope, he wants to vent his spleen to.

Stephenson shouted "I hate Warrington" whilst still picking us for the league. He walked off singing "Yarkshire, Yarkshire, Yarkshire, Yarkshire"

Wells has kicked every cat in the street.

Concern is growing for Clarke. He's not returning any of the Samaritan's calls. He's not eaten since he came home last night, even though his mum's cooked him his favourite tea (meat'n'tattie with eggy bread). He's just sat in his bedroom, listening to Leonard Cohen albums, and painted his walls black. Only Wigan sides from the 80's/90's are supposed to get favourable calls from referees.

Shaun McRea is just laughing at them, whilst wiping off meat juices of his jowls.

I don't think they consciously have a vendetta against Wire, but they have to talk up every single game in such a way that it easily comes down to "big team vs plucky underdogs" and because they're all stuck in the 1990's, Wire won't get the plaudits of some of the older clubs.

A friend of mine who's a ref in the other code, actually wrote to Sky because he was sick of their complaining about the ref. He invited their union commentating team and the BBC commentary lot to come and take the ref's course so that they would be better able to appreciate what was happening on the pitch and give more accurate analysis. Brian Moore did it, Sky sent back a letter which amounted to "it's not the role of commentary to be accurate, they're there as entertainment". Apparently Stevo's in the same role, but who he's entertaining I don't know. It's sad really because you hear him off Sky and he knows a lot about the game and is very balanced in what he says. Unlike Eddeh, who wouldn't know what a rugby ball was if he sat down on the pointy end.

No one has a vendetta against anyone, Clarke is obviously loved up with Wigan but he's always been quite positive with us.

People need to start growing up, yes they say things that are annoying but it's certainly not a vendetta.

Can we all just look at this in an adult way.

I am what is classed as a very mature female supporter of Warrington Wolves & although very placid, for some reason Carl Ablett makes me want to punch him in the face every time I see him.