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| We're 1 point ahead of the equivalent point last year, this time last year we had played 13, won 9, lost 4 (twice to Huddersfield, plus to Catalans and Hull). This year we are played 13, won 9, drawn 1, lost 3 (to Catalans, Saints and Leeds).
I know it has been a bad start to the year for us but last year we were in an even worse position and we managed to rescue our season with a run of form at the end of the season so lets hope we can do another Houdini act this year.
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| I think people are 'worried' because we're not in the form that we were in at this stage last season.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
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| People are also worried that we are not Embarrasing teams this season with big score lines!!
A win is a win in my book no matter how big or small!!
A few seasons ago we could nt even make the top six so i will take whatever comes our way again this season.
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| Last season we were a bunch of flat track bullies who couldn't grind out results and get wins when we weren't playing well.
This year we have rectified that, nobody calls us flat track bullies any more. Now we are doing what Wigan have done for the past two seasons, never looked that much in form but seem to be up the right end of the league.
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| Quote ="the ditch"People are also worried that we are not Embarrasing teams this season with big score lines!!
A win is a win in my book no matter how big or small!!
A few seasons ago we could nt even make the top six so i will take whatever comes our way again this season.'"
I think one of the key reasons we aren't is because of the change in refereeing this season. The ruck speed is so slow it hasn't allowed us to steamroller teams - even if we were in top form I wouldn't see us putting 50+ past many teams this year.
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| Last year there was fluidity, offloading to our own team and a dominance we have not seen for many a year in a number of games including against the top sides. This year, so far, we have seen a strange lack of fluidity sometimes looking rudderless and offloading that beggars belief sometimes but still we are up there.
As Sally points out, I would rather look good and win the the Grand Final than wow everybody every week during the regular season with scores of 50+.
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| Not really interested in our league form atm. As long as we are thereabouts come the end of season and are hitting our best form then. Seriously i haven't been to the last couple of league games, they mean very little. The playoff system is great isn't it, 27 rounds of meaningless games and a small cup comp.
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| I think there are an awful lot of straws being grasped at here by
people not wanting to face the facts.
We are not a shaddow of the side we were last year. We haven't
played a single good game yet and are not showing any signs that it is
about to change anytime soon.
I am not a massive TS fan (I remember the World Cup in Oz), but if
he can pull off a win on Sunday he will go up in my rating.
Cats are at home with good support, playing well and on a roll.
We are away, not playing well and definitely not on a roll, with a lot
of players not having played together for some time.
If Tony can pull all that lot together and produce a win, I will be truly
be impressed !!
Thinking positive, with a lot of hope,
but realistic.
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| Quote ="rossonwire"
I am not a massive TS fan, but if
he can pull off a win on Sunday he will go up in my rating.
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Eh, don't understand your reasoning. You say you are no a fan of TS but if we win on Sunday then your rating of him will go up.
How fickle are you, in my 30 years of watching the Wire I think TS has been the 3rd best thing to happen to this club only beaten by Simon Moran backing us and our move to the HJ. Yet if we win just one game on Sunday then he goes up in your estimation. Like I said how fickle are you.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Eh, don't understand your reasoning. You say you are no a fan of TS but if we win on Sunday then your rating of him will go up.
How fickle are you, in my 30 years of watching the Wire I think TS has been the 3rd best thing to happen to this club only beaten by Simon Moran backing us and our move to the HJ. Yet if we win just one game on Sunday then he goes up in your estimation. Like I said how fickle are you.'"
Ever heard of the cliche "you're only as good as your next game"....
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| Quote ="Moving Forward"Form is temporary, class is permanent.'"
I take it classlessness is also permanent, then?
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| This season is certainly better preperation for play-off rugby than last years regular season was.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"I take it classlessness is also permanent, then?'" you should know!
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"I take it classlessness is also permanent, then?'" Is that just a WIGAN word or can i find it in the Oxford Dictionary???
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"We're 1 point ahead of the equivalent point last year, this time last year we had played 13, won 9, lost 4 (twice to Huddersfield, plus to Catalans and Hull). This year we are played 13, won 9, drawn 1, lost 3 (to Catalans, Saints and Leeds).
I know it has been a bad start to the year for us but last year we were in an even worse position and we managed to rescue our season with a run of form at the end of the season so lets hope we can do another Houdini act this year.'"
Houdini act!!!!
I hardly think we are in any trouble that we need to escape from.
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| Sally Cinnamon in Tongue in Cheek Shocker!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Odem"This season is certainly better preperation for play-off rugby than last years regular season was.'"
Yes because we've already understood how it feels to lose to Catalans, Saints and Leeds so it won't come as a shock when it happens in the playoffs and we won't be called bottlers.
Last year we were smashing teams by 50 points in the league and we smashed Huddersfield as well. It only went wrong in one game against Leeds but thats all it takes, the Pies got unfortunately humbled twice by the team in their shadow, that was real bottling it.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"It only went wrong in one game against Leeds but thats all it takes'"
Down in no small part due to playing a key player with a broken shoulder. Hopefully this year we will have more options of players to step-in if required with the necessary experience of playing at first team level.
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| Since Jon Clarke left we just havn't been the same team.
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| Last year we were hammering sides at the end of the season. You only need to look at our point for total.
I thought we got really hammered in one half last year ... it was against Wigan in the cup. They ran us ragged. True we got points back in the second half but the damage was done.
We lost to Leeds by 2 points (Sinfield's kick at the end). The score seems often to be forgotten. Things didn't totally fall apart in the play offs. Remember we lost by 2 points. Anyside in the world could lose by two points to Leeds.
This year we are not as good. There are lots of little things different but the major factor is Michael Monaghan. He was red hot last year.
All to play for. It's great to be there or there abouts. No side will ever get total domination.
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| Its all Part of Tony Smiths Masterplan you wait and see!!
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| Quote ="the ditch"Its all Part of Tony Smiths Masterplan you wait and see!!'"
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT STATEMENT IS 100% TRUE!
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| What we really need to get some solidarity from Warrington fans is for Phil Clarke to start having a go at us, imagine if he said on Sky "d'ya know what Eddie, I don't think Warrington are the same team this year, there's something missing, and I don't think they can win the title this year"
It would unite the Warrington fans to a man. All the posts on here would be about how Clarke is gonna have those words shoved down his throat with humble pie when we win the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"What we really need to get some solidarity from Warrington fans is for Phil Clarke to start having a go at us, imagine if he said on Sky "d'ya know what Eddie, I don't think Warrington are the same team this year, there's something missing, and I don't think they can win the title this year"
It would unite the Warrington fans to a man. All the posts on here would be about how Clarke is gonna have those words shoved down his throat with humble pie when we win the Grand Final.'"
here here
remember in Smith we trust
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| How does he do it?
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