can we start doing at home games but with out turning are backs in the south stand, i went to watch liverpool v utd afew years ago and we was kept in the ground and all we kept doing was were gona bounce in a minute etc, its obviouse we are on the up but lets make hj a fortress and very loud i rember back at the zoo when we were feared

Yeah, unbeatable at Wilderspool as teams quaked with fear....

I've been kept in at Old Trafford loads of times with Liverpool. You're not going to replicate that atmosphere with Warrington ever, and there was a world of difference between the Torres song you refer to and this Rangers/Chelsea rubbish anyway.

You like football then I take it.

The funny thing about the Poznan is it's been done by dozens (if not more) of teams around Europe for years. It's nothing new.

Except when City saw it, it opened their eyes to what they've been missing out on for all these years since their glorious day on 22nd April 1970 when the won the European Cup Winners Cup in front of 7,968 people in Vienna.

Even then when Lech Poznan played City earlier this season, the City fans laughed and pointed. "What the f@cking hell is that", sang the Colin Bell End.

Now they think it's the cool, crazy dance. Most European teams who do this normally do so with a chant or song that probably has a meaning behind it relating to the team and it's history. I don't know what (if anything) City sing. We're not really doing this, would be apt.

Atmospheres can't be contrived, they must be organic or they don't work. Neither is singing about what you're going to do in a minute (unless it's scoring).

It shouldn't be long before the "Wigan Ultras" are doing it then.

Some of you will have probably seen it, but, type on that video website, "Let's all do the Poznan" and click the fourth one down, 47 seconds. Failure.

we should try and confuse the opposition fans/players with 'unexpected' songs about them.

[i'you're playing quite nicely, you're playing quite nicely la la la la'[/i

[i'nice ground pure fans..... nice ground pure fans'[/i

did you see the trending topic on twitter the other week about honest football songs?

very funny stuff! along the same lines as what your saying!

no i didn't see it... I'm always a bit behind the times.

we did the ponzan at cardiff but when you do it at the hj no one does it

probably because its rubbish!

West Brom were doing this years ago as well.If us as fans cant come up with something original,we are all doomed.The south stand with its average IQ wouldnt have the brain cells to come up with something original.

Agreed, but good luck getting the people on here who think drums and PA music after tries constitute "atmosphere" to understand that.

If we done it, we'd probably look like even bigger bell ends than those that do it at Eastlands. Please, we already have Wigan fans making knobs of themselves with the 'Ultras' bollox, the last thing we should be doing is trying to perform European ultra chants/moves. Besides, half of the chav scum in the South would probably try and pick your pocket whilst they do it.

I'm all for good chants, drums on occasions, too, but trying to replicate European hooligans/ultras would be embarrassing.

Are home grown "hooligan" songs okay?

In my teens at Wilderspool I used to love "You're going home in a St John ambulance" and "It's a long way to Central station".

It's not as long a way to Central station as it used to be mind!

Songs are fine. (So long as they don't ooze with cringeworthy idiocy)

But the stuff Citeh fans are doing is laughable. The days of doing something 'original' are long gone, but, if we're to copy something, we do it the proper way. Sadly, I don't think we can get flares and an entire stand bouncing, nor do I believe we could come up with a decent chant to go with the madness. It's something generally only done on the continent, as the whole 'fan image' thing is massive over there, presenting themselves as hard and 'psycho' is something they love. That level of extreme support just doesn't exist in England, so trying to replicate it will only result in embarrassment.

see exhibit 1! WIGAN ULTRAS- or irregulars! either way its embarassing!

They'll be using flares next.

would be funny if they did and the flags caught fire! lol!

big lolz!

The Green Brigade (Celtic Ultras) have had a brilliant effect on their support. Wigan Ultras copied their banner so obviously they're aware of this, and therefore I fully expect "Just Can't Get Enough" to be the Wigan song of choice very soon.

The wigan ultras, are not trying to be like other teams from Europe. The reason for the flags, is to add a bit of colour to the DW, thats all.

you can round up a bit of dough for flags without labelling yourselves the ultras, a name synonymous with those teams in europe! surely you knew that putting such a name to it would be inviting the comparisons and laughter??

I love the immediate irony of my post being followed by the signature of the Wigan Ultra below it!