I'm talking about Warrington players. Who began their Warrington career well and then over time went backwards?

Martin Gleeson
Brent Grose
Logan Swann
Kelly Shelford
Jon Roper

any other shouts...?

Kevin Penny

Tony Tatupu, his Warrington career started so well with all the hype, its just it went backwards as soon as he stepped onto the pitch. So you could say it started well then declined.

Their are loads in this catagory, most players that leave go backwards in their careers, you don't sell your best players unless you have too like we had to do with Scully and Harris. We had loads of players in the past like Varkulis and similar other players with potential that we let go and they ended up at clubs like Chorley and Leigh etc

Yes I was meaning more players who were particularly good for a while and faded but were around for a while when past their best.

I suppose you could say Rob Smyth declined after scoring 4 tries in his first 40 minutes in a Wire jersey.

Noone, sibbit, wainwright, stevens, braeck, duffy

All had potential, even flashes of brilliance but failed to deliver and were shipped on.

Never forgave duffy passing the ball whilst seemingly over the line and effectivly stopped us from getting a major scalp. Struggling to remember more. Any1 help??

Didn't Neil Kenyon get a hat trick on his debut? then went down hill for him.

Brian Carbett, he was a flyer early in his career then his form dropped, think he had a bad injury and was never the same when he returned.

Richard Henare

Steve McCurrie

Stuart Reardon.

Brian Carbert, Ronnie Duane, Kev Penny, Mark Roberts, Phil Sumner, Rob Myler, Jon Roper, Andy Holbrook. Some of these declined due to injuries.

Paul Noone is one for me.
He was hailed as our new Paul Sculthorpe and our future Captain.
Unfortunately for us and Paul none of this materialised.

I recon :

ian knott

liability in defense and attack,look at benny westwood!!thats a player...

Good call, I always compared Noone and Woody, not position wise but players coming through at around the same time. Noone appeared to have the skill and flare to make it whilst Woody was just a hard running no nonsence forward. At that time I would have said Noone would have made it while hard running forwards were easier to come by. Well how Woody has matured and his game has improved especially under TS. Well done Woody. Sadly wasn't to be for Nooney.

I remember reading possibly in a progamme or a copy of the Warrington Guardian that Alfie Langer rated him as the best forward at the club mentioning in particular his running off the ball and his ability to find gaps.

It always stuck in my mind that piece especially as knott had already begun to recieve stick from the terraces before Langer came.

anyway has anyone mentioned Graham Appo......

Recently....Vinnie Anderson maybe??.....Started well enough but got to the point last season where some on here were finding a club for him - Not many were discussing the chances of a new deal for him ....



Pre- Super League....Rocky Turner??....The Great White Hope at the end of the 80's, he was apparently John Woods and Andy Gregory rolled into one, and when he teamed up with Mackey in Autumn '89 and we were top of the league and waltzed to a Lancashire Cup triumph, things looked good for him.....However, Mackey left for Hull and Rocky's career never recovered....Even when Johnson tried him again with Mackey on the Aussie's return in '92, things never got going again for him, and God only knows what became of him.

Are you taking the ?

Why dont some of you go along to the next past players do and stand up and perhaps slag them off to their faces,
What a great thread you must be so proud,calling as many past players as you can!!!!!

Graham Appo? Had a great season with you guys if I remember in 2003 but didn't seem to do much after it.

Jumped up fun police alert. Forums are a place to discuss. Well within the AUP rules so i'll carry on thanks.

Matt 'The Rocket' Rodwell?



Danny Halliwell - Came in, in many ways saved us from Relegation. Is he even still playing?
Dean Gaskell - Dare I say anymore, just look who he plays for now.


Others that come to mind. Paul Marquet, Tommy O'Reilly, Danny Lima, Varkulis, Wilshere and Cardiss.

I really liked the guy, but Lee Penny could have been a real good player. Had all the attributes early on and shone in his early days, just to fade into mediocracy. Jon Roper was the same. Another one worth a mention would be Ian Sibbit, who at times seemed unplayable in his early years in the centres, big strong and quick. Then 12 months in Australia turned him into a snail pace turnstile.

Pre-Smith I would have been saying similar things about Chris Bridge but thankfully he seems to have found a role and settled into it very well

Jamie Durbin, John Duffy both were hyped up ALOT if I remember correctly both failed to deliver although I think in Duffy's case a broken leg does seem to hinder your development a little bit.

Joey Johns.

Only really performed in his first couple of games

That would be very rude and might upset them. Far better to discuss it here.

Anyway, I'm sure most of them would admit their failings. I was crap at Rugby League; too timid. See, it's easy.

I always hoped that Dean Gaskell would become a superstar try scoring winger. All he managed was the winger part, and even that was a struggle.

Joey Johns played 3 games how can you say he declined he never had a beginning lol

Three players previously mentioned

Martin Gleeson
No, sorry. Never got worse for me. Still the most talented out and out centre I've seen in the P&B

Kelly Shelford
I can see the issue, but that maybe due to the players around him.

Mark Roberts
Never in the life of man. This man was 100% in commitment, skill and allround play, every time he took the field
I think he played twice after his injury in '89 so you can't really say he declined
To use a football comparison (and those who'd remember him), Man City's Paul Lake. Had the world infront of him, destined for great things, then a career wrecking injury. Tried to comeback, but retired within a couple of years. Such a shame.