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| Why are we seeing a decline in our home support on match day? Is this the second consecutive game sub 10k?
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| We're loosing games and the band Wagoners are dropping off. I'm glad.
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| Quote ="moving on..."We're loosing games and the band Wagoners are dropping off. I'm glad.'"
So do you want us to go back to 3000 die hards in a crap stadium aswell
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| The visitors only bringing a couple of hundred doesnt help though. At least Hull had the excuse that nobody likes the M62 on a Friday night.
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| If them 3,000 were proper supporters instead of the day trippers and little teenie bopper indie kids we have now then yes.
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| Quote ="moving on..."If them 3,000 were proper supporters instead of the day trippers and little teenie bopper indie kids we have now then yes.'"
And the Club eventually dies and Folds ... Yeah Great logic is that .
Crowds are down at every super league club this year apart from widnes and Wakey , maybe it coulld be just down to the poor economy and poor structure of the regular season competition .
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| The Hull game was down due to it being a Friday, and also it was difficult for Hull fans to travel. I believe it was made even worse due to a motorway accident that night as well.
I expect yesterday was down due to fans being on holiday, and Salford didn't bring many.
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| Quote ="moving on..."We're loosing games and the band Wagoners are dropping off. I'm glad.'"
That is such a stupid, warped and egotistical outlook. What does one have to do and dress like to become an elite supporter like yourself? At Twickenham there was about 150 of us there last year. I presume you wanted the same number sat behind the sticks at Wembley the following week?
For mine, it is down to the economy, complete lack of marketing (well said the chap who wrote into the Guardian) and this fallacy held by some that the regular season doesn't matter.
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| Quote ="moving on..."If them 3,000 were proper supporters instead of the day trippers and little teenie bopper indie kids we have now then yes.'"
Once the flags are up it will bring back some of the waiverers.
Seriously, your passion can't be denied, but, you have to accept that yours is not the only way. Each to their own on match days and if there is a younger element that want to be there just to be with their mates/girls then that's their business surely?
You seem to be angry about most things these days apart from when someone is agreeing with you about the cost of printing a poem on a P&B 'bedsheet'
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| We still haven't played Wigan, Leeds, Widnes or Hull KR (they always bring 222,000 to every away match).
We played Saints and Hull on TV, and coming from Hull on a Friday night when the M62 is blocked is going to have an affect.
So, the average will go back up when we play those teams without a doubt, even if the Wigan game is on a Monday.
As for glory hunters, and/or kids at the games - we need them, they are vital to survival - without them we would average 7 or 8K every week max - in fact, I would say we need to double the glory hunters by another cup run, or do promo game deals where kids get in for £2 or something, get them through the doors - how else do we expect to get new blood in the ground - annoying young lads and girls will turn into 20 something season ticket holders one day - I've been there done that (all be it 30 years ago................... )
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| The club needs to realise people won't just turn up blindly to games every week without a 'call to action'. Marketing is needed.
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| Quote ="mark_m"The club needs to realise people won't just turn up blindly to games every week without a 'call to action'. Marketing is needed.'"
I don't live in the town or local area but from the outside this my impression. We don't seem to do much pro-active promotion for games.
We have a big cup quarter final coming up - in the last round Huddersfield did a big promotion for a televised game and got over 10k. Why aren't we doing the same? We're just putting the game on and hoping 5 - 7k turn up.
This isn't just Warrington though - I think all SL clubs are guilty of it. The only club with any pro-activity seems to be Wigan with the Big Game promotions. We should be doing the same.
Happy to be corrected if this is unfair as I as said earlier don't live in the area so may be missing some of the activities.
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| not seen any posters in and around town centre and that for a while.
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| the regular season dont matter and we were playing a poor salford team
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"the regular season dont matter and we were playing a poor salford team'"
All the more reason for a maarketing push then! The club seems to have lost its way a little with this of late.
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| A change to the current structure/ format of the play off's will improve attendances as fans will view every game as important. You will also find a lot of fans saving their money for the potential of SF and Finals...I don't blame them for that.
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| ..but playoff attendances are even worse than league rounds, so it blows the theory that fans are saving themselves for important games right out the water.
The club need to do more. The "build it and they will come" theory isn't working.
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| Quote ="ChiswickWire"I don't live in the town or local area but from the outside this my impression. We don't seem to do much pro-active promotion for games.
We have a big cup quarter final coming up - in the last round Huddersfield did a big promotion for a televised game and got over 10k. Why aren't we doing the same? We're just putting the game on and hoping 5 - 7k turn up.
This isn't just Warrington though - I think all SL clubs are guilty of it. The only club with any pro-activity seems to be Wigan with the Big Game promotions. We should be doing the same.
Happy to be corrected if this is unfair as I as said earlier don't live in the area so may be missing some of the activities.'"
You are spot on, it is something I have been ranting about for ages now. All clubs are guilty of it, we hear fans constantly complain that the RFL don't promote the game but generally I feel they couldn't do much more; the responsibility lies with clubs to promote their own games. Wigan's 'big one', Huddersfield v Leeds, even Hunslet v Batley the other week proves that sensible and well thought out marketing campaigns work.
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| I think part of the reason is, now we are one of the top teams away fans travel less due to them having less chance of winning.
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| i think the main reason is because of the rfl not getting a sponsor. i watch sky sports religiously and there hasnt been one advert i have seen promoting our game and whats on unless rugby league is on at the same time. normally we would have adverts inbetween the super sunday football games and that. The only one i have seen is the bradley wiggins and sam tomkins adverts right before the season started
as my old man always says, rugby league is a game played by men ran by a group of boys
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| Responsibility for promoting the club starts and ends with the club
Surely they have a well paid marketing manager, who must be in cloud cuckoo land if he feels all that could be done is being so
Think we are missing a trick in not enticing potential new fans by following the Huddersfield eg of dropping prices for our cup game with them
Generally I feel the club is relying on loyalty of existing season ticket holders which is dangerous as ppl inevitably drop away and we don't appear doing all we can to attract fans from a new fan base
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| A lot of it is down to the product. Super League changed what is was to stop Saints winning. Slowing down the ruck to stop hooker scooting means the fast paced (Albeit farcical at times with the defense back peddling) game we used to have has been replaced with a horrifically poor imitation of the NRL. Slow play the balls, terrible attacking structures and a complete lack of intensity in 99% of SL games.
The clubs have to take as much flack for it as the administrators do. They have taken the play off structure to heart far to much. The top 8 system means that for most teams there really is no benefit at all to trying to win every game. Teams pick and choose games and whole periods of the season and you can tell most weeks that the teams are just going through the motions.
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| Quote ="wiretillidie88"i think the main reason is because of the rfl not getting a sponsor. i watch sky sports religiously and there hasnt been one advert i have seen promoting our game and whats on unless rugby league is on at the same time. normally we would have adverts inbetween the super sunday football games and that. The only one i have seen is the bradley wiggins and sam tomkins adverts right before the season started
as my old man always says, rugby league is a game played by men ran by a group of boys'"
When did it become the RFL or Sky's job to market games at the Halliwell Jones? I'm bored of Red Hall being used as an easy scapegoat.
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| Wasnt the last big game we marketed the Wigan Challenge Cup game in 2011 where we asked if they wanted our cup they better come and get it!!!
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