Widnes are in only their 3rd season back in superleague after years in the wilderness. You've been there from Day 1 mostly with a multi-millionaire owner/benefactor. You are 8 points better off than us this season, deservedly so. We have won 3 of the last 4 meetings and in all honesty, blew you away last Friday.
Only the most arrogant and one-eyed fans would claim you are "miles ahead of" us. Next season, we'll be better again, so maybe then even you might be able to give credit where it's due.

no biff...daft rules i.e obstuction rule.forward passes one week the next week its the momentum rule..as one poster typed no stars in our game..for years no relegation and promotion..no gloss to winning the league but win a comp from 5th and your champs barmy..then we have biased eddie on sky drooling over every thing james roby does

Add to the list the obsession of attaining international sport status and a London presence. In reality RL in the UK is like Hurling in Ireland. A passionately supported, fast, contact sport with an avid following in a regional area. And there is nothing wrong with that. (check out 70K people at Croke Park in the 2013 final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv9FGy9MqOY).

Add to the list the obsession of attaining international sport status and a London presence. In reality RL in the UK is like Hurling in Ireland. A passionately supported, fast, contact sport with an avid following in a regional area. And there is nothing wrong with that. (check out 70K people at Croke Park in the 2013 final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv9FGy9MqOY).

We're in a bit of a dip in terms of player quality, that's why it feels boring. There are lots of good forwards around but we are lacking the really exciting players in the backs and halfbacks.

The league has actually become more competitive at the top but somehow it feels false because everyone knows that its due to the quality declining at the top. The teams at the top today are not in the calibre of those 10 years ago.

I think SL peaked in terms of quality in the mid 2000s and we are on a dip now, but that can change over time. Look back to the late 1990s and the quality was very weak, a run of the mill Bradford team went through the year nearly winning every game one time (and then got shelled by 60 points by the bottom Aussie club in the World Club Championship). I remember being very gutted in 1997 at what had happened to the quality of the game when compared to say 1994/95 when you still had loads of legends around. But by around 2002 the signs were looking up and from 2004 to 2008 I thought SL was fantastic. So things can change.

A few more dull games tonight

our game was ok wigan and salford was bilge