hodgson , yes he`s past it , hang on top points scorer this year , king , yes hes well over the hill , briers , oh yes worst stand off in super league never going to make it , m.monas got to say he`s average , NOT , and as for moz well , say no more

He is in the form of his life your right but his body is now more fragile than ever, he needs protecting by Smith to keep him fresh. Playing for Wales in the 4 nations is his dream though, but could be hard on his body which as we all know has not been kept in tip top conditon over the years.

What protection has he had this season?

No-one is saying these players are rubbish. Just that its worrying for Wire that so many of your key players are so close to retirement around the same time.

Same thing happened with Wigan when Farrell, O'Connor, Radlinski, Cowie, Newton, Connolly, Dallas, Renouf, Furner, Smith, Lam all left/retired within the space of a couple of seasons look where that left us - we were absolutely terrible when they left, up until we got a massive boost of talent coming through these past 2 years in the Tomkins bros, farrell, mossop, etc.

You cant just live in hope that players like O'Brian will be the new messiah and all will be well (we did the same with Kevin Brown)

We are being given the world on a plate by Lord Smith of the Shire and all you do is complain about the effing plate !!

Idea - next time you have a thought, either tell the person next to you at the time or just let it go.

I think it might be a case of 'What ridiculous thread can I think of today,' Mark.