The real question is where do you place ST on the Brough "git factor" scale (with Brough at 10 and Mick Gregory at 0).

Clearly JTs a good player and could be more than that eventually but that's irrelevent to this scale.

In my view he does show quite a lot of potential to move up the scale. At present I rate him an 8, quite an achievement for such a young player. One thing in his "git" favour is the development of new reasons for making us dislike him such as the clamping players hands when he is tackled, very inventive, even Sean Long didn't think of that.

OT why didn't Alibert sin bin the saints player (Wilkins?) after 5 minutes when he held back Myler? as he followed Atkins break. Clearly prevented a try scoring opportunity

Who are you; his Dad? You want to get out more Rogues.

No-one is suggesting he isn't an excellent player (well, no-one sensible) but you've shot your load by saying the poor lad has the 'potential to be an all time great', assuming that isn't an oxymoron in itself. Talk about piling on the pressure...

Admittedly Rogues can talk bull sometimes.

He started at Wigan at 16, and I saw most of his academy home games, and a few away.

I saw all his first team games last season plus some of his academy games.
I've seen all his games this season.

I'm not his dad, but was sat close by him on Saturday watching Logan playing for Wigan U18's.

I'll stick by what I've said, that is, if he continues to progress the way he has then he has a CHANCE to become an all tine Rugby League great.

He's certainly the best I've seen since Shaun Edwards, that's how highly I rate him.

As I've always said it's about opinions and than God we all different ones, otherwise life would be boring.

Dont argue with em Rogues. If he was a Dire player they would say he already is one of the world greats. He will be one of the best in the very near future they're just bitter cos they lost the scouse derby last week and lost the battle to catch us.

yawn! i feel quite confident in saying that you are nowt but a troll of the lowest kind, now run home, your pies are getting cold!