It's the way I roll.

Personally I'm gutted having seen him progress through the academy to getting his first proper run of 1st team games last season .
It's strange considering when he went on loan to Cas he was probably 4th choice of the signings they made to cover the half backs , yet he backed himself to claim a starting spot, as one of 4 ' top quality' half backs he could acheive the same with Salford next season ..

However. if he doesn't want to wear the scarlet I would not want him back contracted or not. lets find someone who ' wants to play for Salford ' ?

I wouldn't expect Signature sports management to be a welcome guest at the AJB any time soon ..

Think you've gone rogue there John. One's a mediocre stop gap who has been ok for us and the other is a future international and probably the most promising youngster in the game at present.

The difference is we didnt go to Cas and ask them to release Chase from his contract and let him join us for free.We respected the rules and approached Cas first and then made a substansial monetary offer to Cas for his services.

Sneyds agent has been Hawking him around several SL clubs looking for a deal while his client still has 18 months on his existing contract.Surely he should have asked Salford first if his client had any chance of getting a release and certainly wasnt going to get released for free like his agent seemed to think was the right thing for Salford to do.

Nothing compared to the backwards Salford fans who were predicting out demise, how many "I can't wait until next year when they go down" comments were we subjected to from the RL oracles from the Arse of Manchester

Whenever your little club manages to not involve itself in a relegation battle maybe it will be able to persuade it's young talent to stay

Never seen hypocrisy like it.

You lot are on another level.

Not a particularly mature response to a genuine statement.

When you post things like this, does it ever occur to you that:

a. You're making yourself look like a bell-end.
b. You're tarring sensible Cas fans with the same brush.
c. You're going to have to have thick skin when things start to go downhill.

In answer to your question, by the way, on these forums the answer is two. The hordes of knobbish posts from Salford 'fans' came from two penile posters that turn up once every blue moon under one or two different guises. You see, what they did is make the rest of us fall into category B above, something that you're managing to do spectacularly well every time you post on here. You've already underlined your presence in Category A, just be wary of Category C.

Haven't you been involved in enough relegation battles down the years? Nothing like a touch of humility. You're no different to our bellends.

Talking about persuading their young talent to stay, how many have Cas held onto in recent times? All seem to jump ship at the first available opportunity, even after your best Super League season ever Clarke is still leaving. I cant think what they dont like about the ar$e end of Wakefield.

I've always quite like Cas. However, your fans got so worked up into a frenzy convincing yourselves that we had no chance of signing Chase that it has turned into something of an obsession with Salford now.

I play by a different set of rules too. When they finally make "Scarlet Turkey: The Movie", they'll have to get Steven Seagal to play me.

My thinking here is that Daryl Clark is, as you suggest, a real standout player. We already have a few of those next season in Locke, Dobson and Chase. I think we need a hooker who can create space for those players by giving quick, accurate distribution from dummy half rather than one who is just as flamboyant. I think Logan Tomkins gives us that.

Still, I wouldn't complain if we got Clark.

Yes I think it's because we have been holding all the ace cards on both Chase and Sneyd. Fans favourite Chase to Salford was a non starter in the eyes of many Cas fans and then it happened. Then they get Marc Sneyd on loan and they probably had pretty low expectations. The lad performs great and contibutes to a fantastic half season but he's still contracted to Salford and they want to keep him.

What I think makes it more hard for some to accept is I'm sure that they have always considered Salford an inferior club financially and it all changed when the Doc came on board. If Chase had gone to Wigan or Warrington I think the Castleford supporters would have accepted that much easier.

Further to this I think the Doc's outspoken views on twitter has stoked up even more anger and bitterness. As you say it's an obsession for many of them to troll us now, especially whilst they are currently holding the high ground following a successful year so far.

The best thing to do is just ignore their posts and they'll get bored.

As for Cas as a team I've always liked them and still do. Everybody likes an underdog and I've enjoyed watching them cause quite a few upsets this year.

All this bitterness and animosity from some of our dead head posters is unbelievable. Ok we are NOW in a steady financial state and we as a club are forever indebted to our chairman Jack Fulton. But lets face it if we had someone who wanted to take over the club and pour untold sums into player recruitment then I and I'm sure Mr Fulton would not be too upset. We keep going back to this time and time again but the only thing I don't especially like about Koukash is his use of social media as I feel someone in a position he is should act a little more professionally, But this by no means causes me to hate the guy and slag him off with comments that are not only slanderous but in some instances borderline racist. If truth be told most Cas fans would welcome a sugar daddy with open arms. The worry comes though if he gets fed up and sells you down the river which I agree could be said about a few more high profile chairmen at a couple of football clubs not so far from you.

I welcome this new money in Superleague with open arms and cherry picking of top players will always happen until every single player gets paid exactly the same and there teams are equally successful which lets face it will never happen.

A very balanced and honest post.

I have to say that I agree with you on most points. However, it's getting harder and harder to like them with the idiots that come on here. If you are a Twitter user, reading anything MK posts (regardless of subject) attracts bell-ends like flies on a bucket of turds. Most of those flies are Cas fans with a splattering of other 'fans'. Just be thankful that we only get half a dozen on here because Twitter is positively alive with brain damage. I've been trying to figure out the various reasons why Cas seems to have more specials per head than other teams and their particular fascination with us?

While your succinct post answers part of that question admirably it still, in my eyes, doesn't account for the sheer numbers of excitable dribblers. Some you'd expect, but the numbers are staggering when you take social media into the question. The one or two quality Cas fans are being drowned-out by the noise of Premiership quality fools. If I was a Cas fan I'd be very optimistic but also very cautious. Success can come to anyone under the right circumstances, maintaining that success is the greatest challenge. Only a few Clubs have managed it. For fans to ride the excitement wave of a good half season is to be expected. For a team coming from the 'lower' part of SL to do it, more so. However, the fact that you come from the lower tier would mean to most sensible thinkers, that recent memory of hard times would drive your thinking. It seems that Bullied become the Bully in this case.

Which is a bit disheartening to be honest.

I have no ill will to Castleford or its people. The Club, its players, or its staff. Considering we're supposed to be a RL Family where most Clubs are struggling to even exist, to take pleasure in other Clubs misfortunes seems to me to be the lowest of the low. While I reserve my ire for those that deserve it, the increasing numbers of them at Cas are turning my opinions against them as a general group.

Dignity and humility have yet to make themselves felt over at Cas in any numbers.

As I think many know the actions of the more moronic Cas fans who seem to inundate this forum have created a great dislike in the Castleford team in my eyes.

I have just for the first time in my life seen Twitter and reading some of the posts on the Docs account by Castleford fans shocked me, I honestly didn't expect their too be so much vitriolic bile spewed. It makes me hope more than anything that the Doc takes a very hard line stance with Sneyd and categorically says no to him signing for Castleford.

I struggle too see where a great deal of this hatred for the Doc comes from, I would have thought a sport so perpetually close to the precipice as ours would have welcomed someone so readily willing to heavily invest into said sport with open arms.

I guess some Turkeys are happy to be bloody minded and vote for Christmas.

Ive seen the dr twitter the other day and i was surprised by the amount of hatred he gets from castleford fans. Most of them have ago at him for our attendance which i find funny as when milward was in charge at the start of last season their attendance drop to 3 thousand now there coming out since their winning games. Yes the Dr goes overboard on twitter but its great to see what our chairman is up to. Wilky kept himself to himself and it annoyed alot of fans. Other fans know how salford fans felt now when teams were taking our best player. alot of people are having ago at him for not letting our youngsters start this season yet the walne brothers are playing week in - week out, theo getting games under his belt and Evalds starting now in games. Castleford would love to have the Dr on board so to me its just Jelousy

We are doing okay without the Dr so I don't think it is jealous, frustration and maybe a bit of worry, but not jealousy.

I agree with a lot of what you say mate but the 3 thousand attendance was a one off just before Millward was sacked. Please don't be offended as i like to hear the views of other fans but if a Cas fan had used such bad grammar the self professed enforcer of this board would have resorted to his usual insults with several references to bodily functions. Once again mate no offence to you.

hay ive got nothing against Castleford so its all good to me. Its just annoying to see our chairman being talk to like that on twitter. We have shown that the we can get up to 7 thousand to a game so if we start winning games our crowds will increase then it will shut up other fans as well. I do think though if castleford want sneyd that much then you will have to pay probably as much as we did for chase. He's not the man of steel like chase was but hes young and hes proven to be a big player at castleford and im sure teams like saints hull will be after him and they will pay big for him as well

Last season our then coach thought was a good plan to send Sneyd to Cas on a season long loan with no return clause. By April this season it became clear that it was a mistake, The owner made it clear that if there was a way to bring Marc back he would have, but there was an agreement signed and that was that.
May last year Marc and his agent agreed an extension to his contract until 2016. At the time it looked a good plan but now feted playing the best rugby of his career with his loan club his agent realise it was a mistake .He can get a much better deal for his client and maybe at a club that hasn't already two international halfs and exiles half back with a decade of SL in its 2015 roster.
?..but theres been an agreement signed and that is that.

Mostly agree Faddy and Middleman, i don't think any one is wanting Marc for free and they shouldn't expect to. Although still under contract Chase for whatever reason wanted away and Salford paid up and i think the reason you got him so cheap (relatively) was the loan deal for Marc. Things seem to have changed a little since i first posted that 2 Cas players had told me that Marc wanted to stay at Cas and now other clubs are rumoured to want him. The ideal outcome would be for the player to be at the club he wants to be at (whichever that may be) and Salford get a fair price for him. That last condition will be the hard part as neither the buying club or Salford will be happy. If he leaves i just hope its with a Wembley appearance on his CV and i know the superb Cas fans will carry on cheering him until the last minute of the last game.

If Tigers reach Wembley he will sign for us and Salford will get a fee.

You may find the Doc sells him to anyone but Cas. Not sure he has been that impressed with the club.

I don't think Salford will be interested in the money. Marc's value is that he could be used as a lever to prise a decent prop or hooker (two positions we're a bit short in for next season) away from another club (provided Marc can agree terms, obviously). If it's true you've sold Clark and Huby, then I suspect you're well down the pecking order. Current favourites are Huddersfield, I reckon. Straight swap for Shaun Lunt.

And I suspect Red Willow is right. Some of your fans don't help your case.

It seems half back Jamie Ellis has joined Huddersfield from Castleford.

Some rumours suggest Robinson is Featherstone bound from the Giants.