It's sad what's happened to this board over the past few years but I think it just mirrors many other forms of Social Media tbh. Now I've never been a regular poster on here but I always enjoyed reading the views of far more knowledgeable rugby fans than myself...... and although there were often disagreements it was generally good natured debate and people would agree to disagree and move on. Now it just seems like a certain minority (as is the case on most RL Fans forums) who take great pleasure im antagonising people for their own pleasure. You only have to look at the VT to see every thread derailed by a Hull FC-Hull KR b1tchfest! Remember 20 years ago when discussing rugby in the pub you just ignored the local village idiot (or slapped him!

)who annoyed you? Not so easily done with Social Media and it says a lot about the world we live in when the likes of Joey Barton, Kim Kardashian, Katie Price etc are followed by millions on Twitter, Instagram etc etc.

How we resolve this, god only knows but as fans we all need to take responsibility for not letting this board die. 99% of people on here are more than likely adults so can we all please start acting like one?! (and yes I include myself in that and will try my damnedest not to be wound up by the numpties!!!)

At the end of the day the "Clique'' has retreated because of Me and Mario that's how childish and pathetic it really is, this Forum has been ruined by a "clique'' if you ask me and many ex-posters. They have all now retreated to form their own ''Cliquey'' forum where debating the Negative is outlawed, therefore, their one-sided views, aren't really classed as debating. A Forum is supposed to accommodate all views of discussion without causing any prejudicial vitriolic abuse towards a single party. Reading their Tweets was absolutely the most embarrassing piece of Childsplay I've ever witnessed coming from supposedly fully grown Adults where they blame myself and Mario for bringing down this very Forum. Now this Forum before I ever joined was in no better state, I have friends family and acquaintances who have come and gone from these boards who have refrained from dialogue due to the ''Cliquey'' goings on. It reminds me of a Primary school playground where Michigan Red flies around the yard whispering in people's ears "Don't post if "Flat Stan'' or ''Mario'' posts, this is what's actually going on. So I'm glad the "Clique'' has decided to retreat with their Ad Hominem vitriolic nonsense, Typical Bullies left with their tails between their legs. They hated their views being challenged just alike your typical bully. I ain't going nowhere, posters will and still visit these boards there's no comparison.

So at this point I'll say ''Bye, Bye to the Clique'', Your Forum isn't a real Forum, it only accommodates one dimensional Zombie's. Now this Forum is a proper Forum where the Anti, Pro, positive, and Negative is permitted hence your migration to 'Deviltalk'

Has someone had a bet with you to see how many times you can use the word "clique" in a post?
I'm certainly not a member of any clique but I hardly ever read this forum any more due to the utterly boring and predictable posts from yourself and Mario. Geddit?

That's a shame . And it's also a shame that I can't ever seem to remember anything interesting or insightful what you've written or contributed to any particular thread. Your Avatar suits your literacy.

There's no clique. When 'Clique' is mentioned on here it is either always used by fairly recent joiners to describe anyone who was already here, or used as a weak defense when idiocy gets called out.

There's normal people who can have a discussion without taking offence because someone has a different view. Then there's others who can't discuss an alternate opinion without condescending and belittling. If people get so offended by the prospect of somebody having a different view on RL, and can't be civil, then they should really question their ability to interact as an adult.

Multiple accounts need to go if it can be done. Far too many individuals propping-up their own arguments.

RLFans has been going downhill for quite a while, even before the most recent nobbers appeared. Less and less posters. More and more idiocy.

Poor moderation. Probably due to the fact that most of our mods had already drifted away from the boards already rather than deliberately ignoring stuff. Poor or no moderation just perpetuates the problems and consequently makes them worse.

This forum is pretty much dead, and don't see it changing any time soon as most posters can't be bothered with the idiot(s).

With all due respect Stanley, a large majority of RLFANS members which you have just branded as "one dimensional Zombie's" have moved over to the DevilTalk forum. In fact, the new Forum has encouraged a lot of 'lurkers' to actually join in with the discussions ,which is really pleasing to see.

The migration was a necessary evil, and as far as I'm aware people are enjoying the new forum. It encourages debate but in an intelligent, considered manner that doesn't intend to antagonise or upset other members.

We are all old enough to debate an opinion without it having to descend into farce, which is sadly something that has become the norm in threads you have previously commented on, on this forum.

Hahaha wrong its not dead theres over 130 people viewing this forum as I write this post. Now that's not dead it's just lying dormant, now looking over at your forum now that looks dead to me. 5 viewing.

Here comes the cavalry, your views are biased I get Ad Hominem and antagonized. You just backslap with vested interest. Looking at your forum postings, there're only about four consistent posters.

One look at this thread is all you need to know about the state of RLFans at this moment in time.

There's only one problem on this forum and it's your pathetic antagonizing boredom obsession with me.

Yeah that'll be it, Stan.

Obnoxious, reality denying conspiracy theorists with chronic Dunning-Kruger syndrome and a penchant for living in a fantasy world really float my boat.

There's the problem Ad Hominem. Cognitive Dissonance is flexing that vex.

DevilTalk was never created with a hidden agenda of creating a popularity contest between RLFANS and itself. In fact, I'd like it if people who are members of both Forums continued to use both. At the end of the day, we're all big Salford RLFC fans and want to get our daily fix of gossip and rugby-related news. Where you get that fix from is up to you, but from what I'm hearing a lot of people are enjoying the new website.

Also, to make a comparison between how many 'hits' each website is currently getting is absurd. One has been established for well over a decade, while the other has been around merely a month, if that. I don't think the popularity of a Forum ultimately determines which one is better; it is down to the content and contribution of it's respective members.

On a personal note I'm not backslapping anyone, but when a fellow member makes a good point of course I'll back them up wholeheartedly.

I genuinely hope this forum gets back on track, but my gut feeling is that a lot of members have become disillusioned and it will take a bit of effort to bring them back here.

What would you know. You've only been on this forum two minutes and you're acting like the pied piper private messaging everybody poaching posters away from here.

First point: Incorrect Stan. I have been a member here for almost 3 years longer than you have.

Second point: I've only ever approached one member to join DevilTalk. This isn't a conspiracy theory!

Third point: I rest my case.

You maybe want to heed your own advice there Mr Angry.

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You're supposed to be a grown Adult. Don't you think you should start acting like one? Just to let everyone know about your consistent unprovoked Ad Hominem attacks, where you write or converse with such hypocrisy, here's just a little recap.

Now there has been a clique on this forum for many years. And to just deny or disregard this is just pure ignorance. And to suggest I'm an Idiot for highlighting this just shows your antagonistic nature.

Well take heed of your own analogy. I have a differed opinion on life than you to which you constantly jab Ad Hominem remarks which are most often brain insults. So by your own admission you're not normal.
Gee Whizz, now you're striking below the belt. You've got more membership accounts than Salford Rugby Club ever had.

Now the above quote proves his hypocrisy of the other above quote where his own analogy backfired on him. Like I said the typical brain insults prove you can't debate with out getting personal.Simples.

Yawn

Are you being sponsored to use the phrase "Ad Hominem" Stanley/Mario?

Dear god I've read some drivel over the years but you take the biscuit. Between you and your alter ego you've pretty much destroyed this forum and the sad thing is I think you're secretly enjoying it. Btw, as far as I am aware, I don't know anyone on this forum personally so I'm certainly not part of any clique. I've been over to DevilTalk the last few days and while it's in it's infancy it just makes a refreshing change not to have every thread hijacked by the village idiot.

And no I'm not a bully, I speak my mind and I'm just seriously f*cked off that normal Rugby League loving fans feel the need to set up an alternative forum because a few (alleged) adults decide to act like kids. I'll probably use this forum to post my weekly predictions now and nothing much else. I haven't got the energy or inclination to waste my breath discussing anything else with people who have some form of a hidden agenda.

Firstly. Can I just remind you that I, and Mario are Two separate identities. Could a Moderator intervene here please to confirm these wild accusations?

Secondly. To accuse, myself, and Mario for the destroying of this forum again is another wild accusation with zero substance. The Clique moved on because their leader couldn't integrate with his Polar opposite hence the migration. Now how childish and immature was that just take a look at social media and witness the dummy being spat, quite funny and embarrassing to see Adults paddying.

Thirdly. Personal Attacks calling me the village Idiot, again just reinforces my case of the Ad Hominem attacks I keep being subjected too.

Fourthly. If you were caring enough to read my posts you'll find that they're mostly retaliating to a provoked "Butcher''attack which you'd be too ignorant to even acknowledge. However if the shoe was on the other foot you'd still accuse me of being the guilty one, which is pure Ad Hominem. It really doesn't matter what I choose to post, it'd be sneered, ridiculed, and dismissed because it's Stan. That is Ad Hominem.

Fifthly. Hidden Agenda. What agenda would I have on friggin Rugby League Forum. Seriously. You're so far away with these wild accusations many would wonder what the hell are you smoking.

Sixthly. You're just a bully.And being one, because you can on here. Attacking the minority is pretty shallow. with regards to Ad Hominem, the more it happens, the more I'll highlight it. Simples.

I'm not going to get in discussion with you because you're just craving attention so I'll keep it short and sweet. I've never bullied anyone in my life but I stand up for what I believe in and I passionately despise people who take pleasure in ruining other people's enjoyment. Since the Chuckle Brothers appeared on this forum it's reached a new low. I imagine "The Butcher" has a similar outlook to myself and gets extremely irritated by "members" of this forum ruining what was once a decent, good natured discussion board. Some people might just stay quiet and leave the forum, others, like myself, will speak up. The fact pretty much all the mods have gone sums the situation up as even they've had enough and CBA policing the forum.

If what I've said breaks the A.U.P then

me..... I'd rather get banned for saying what a lot of people are thinking than lose complete respect for myself for letting the lunatics take over the asylum unopposed.

You're just proof of one of the many problem posters that roam these boards. Aiming typical personal attacks with some kind of cranial brain insult. Repeat, Repeat, Repeat the "Cliquey'' M-O

Amf you're proof that reproduction isn't always a wise move.....

You're tiresome and not worth my time and effort. I'll leave it there. TTFN.

Nice. Your Personal comments are very classy. Getting personal for no valid reason just proves your failings to debate like an adult. You should get on well with the rest of your mob over on the desolate DevilTalk.



If this is proof of your ''Reasonable Debates'' well I'm ''buzzin'' you're migrating too.