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| Quote ="DemonUK"Has the building started yet? I'm getting bored with my signature
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The snow's slowing things down at the moment...
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| Quote ="Iain"The snow's slowing things down at the moment...
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Has the building started yet? I'm getting bored with my signature
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Surely the newest stadium in rugby league was The Racecourse Ground in 2010?
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| Quote ="Fully"Surely the newest stadium in rugby league was The Racecourse Ground in 2010?'"
The stadium is recognised as the world's oldest international football stadium, and it's only in rugby league because the crusaders moved in with wrexham fc in 2010
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| Quote ="zandor46"The stadium is recognised as the world's oldest international football stadium, and it's only in rugby league because the crusaders moved in with wrexham fc in 2010'"
It is still, technically, the newest stadium to be in rugby league.
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| A few lessons need to be learned from Leigh's stadium management shambles yesterday. The food kiosk was crap. Halfway through the first-half they couldn't keep up with food orders. Ordering grub was a lucky dip. No onions or condiments were available for hot dogs and burgers, leaving the former feeling like you were eating a dry-wall butty. The cash turnstile operators had about two pounds worth of change on them, thus holding the queue up past kick-off. And the stadium bar (legends bar) had hardly anyone in it after the match; it was dead. I hazard a guess because the drinks were almost double what the surrounding pubs charge.
Remember kids, a crap ground with a good customer experience beats a nice ground with a crap customer experience every day of the week.
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| Quote ="Fully"It is still, technically, the newest stadium to be in rugby league.'"
What about Oldham's Whitebank Stadium? Didn't they move in to it part way in to the 2010 season?
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| Quote ="Iain"What about Oldham's Whitebank Stadium? Didn't they move in to it part way in to the 2010 season?'"
No idea. Plus, there's also Bramall Lane.
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| Quote ="Fully"No idea. Plus, there's also Bramall Lane.'"
Nah, Bramall Lane was used by Sheffield Eagles years ago on a fairly regular basis. Oldham will have moved to Whitebank about April-ish.
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| Quote ="Chico"A few lessons need to be learned from Leigh's stadium management shambles yesterday. The food kiosk was crap. Halfway through the first-half they couldn't keep up with food orders. Ordering grub was a lucky dip. No onions or condiments were available for hot dogs and burgers, leaving the former feeling like you were eating a dry-wall butty. The cash turnstile operators had about two pounds worth of change on them, thus holding the queue up past kick-off. And the stadium bar (legends bar) had hardly anyone in it after the match; it was dead. I hazard a guess because the drinks were almost double what the surrounding pubs charge.
Remember kids, a crap ground with a good customer experience beats a nice ground with a crap customer experience every day of the week.'"
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| Quote ="Chico"A few lessons need to be learned from Leigh's stadium management shambles yesterday. The food kiosk was crap. Halfway through the first-half they couldn't keep up with food orders. Ordering grub was a lucky dip. No onions or condiments were available for hot dogs and burgers, leaving the former feeling like you were eating a dry-wall butty. The cash turnstile operators had about two pounds worth of change on them, thus holding the queue up past kick-off. And the stadium bar (legends bar) had hardly anyone in it after the match; it was dead. I hazard a guess because the drinks were almost double what the surrounding pubs charge.
Remember kids, a crap ground with a good customer experience beats a nice ground with a crap customer experience every day of the week.'"
agreed but shouldn't we,the paying public expect decent facilities plus decent customer care ? The best french RU/RL stadium I've found so far is Stade Toulousain - easy acccess from the motorway,good grub,good booze,friendly staff & good facilities,what more could you ask for ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"
agreed but shouldn't we,the paying public expect decent facilities plus decent customer care ? The best french RU/RL stadium I've found so far is Stade Toulousain - easy acccess from the motorway,good grub,=#FF0000good booze,friendly staff & good facilities,what more could you ask for ?'"
Better than the other place then , at 5 euro for a can not even a pint
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| Quote ="sanjunien"
agreed but shouldn't we,the paying public expect decent facilities plus decent customer care ? The best french RU/RL stadium I've found so far is Stade Toulousain - easy acccess from the motorway,good grub,good booze,friendly staff & good facilities,=#FF0000what more could you ask for ?'"
An atmosphere? Something distinctly lacking in contemporary, corporate and clinical stadia.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher":3gy8a7hbAn atmosphere? Something distinctly lacking in contemporary, corporate and clinical stadia.'" Better than the other place then , at 5 euro for a can not even a pint
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the price at TO last year was €2.50 for a token - 2 tokens = half a litre = €5
mind you,didn't seem to stop you Leythers from getting thoroughly p****d up tho',did it ? as a matter of interest what do they charge you for a pint at LSV nowadays ?
obviously the thing to do is buy a case of cheap booze from any supermarket,have a skinful before the match and then top-up with a few more in the ground ?
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| Quote ="Fully"It is still, technically, the newest stadium to be in rugby league.'"
Newest age wise, all the ones you mention are old stadia as you well know, no building yet then... No rush now eh now Wakeys has been sent for public inquiry.
So I reckon I'll still have my sig until at least the middle of 2012, and I should then be removing it as Saints ground should be ready. I'm fairly confident the Salford Fairy Tale Stadium will not be ready before Saints ground
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| Quote ="Chico"A few lessons need to be learned from Leigh's stadium management shambles yesterday. The food kiosk was crap. Halfway through the first-half they couldn't keep up with food orders. Ordering grub was a lucky dip. No onions or condiments were available for hot dogs and burgers, leaving the former feeling like you were eating a dry-wall butty. The cash turnstile operators had about two pounds worth of change on them, thus holding the queue up past kick-off. And the stadium bar (legends bar) had hardly anyone in it after the match; it was dead. I hazard a guess because the drinks were almost double what the surrounding pubs charge.
Remember kids, a crap ground with a good customer experience beats a nice ground with a crap customer experience every day of the week.'"
Complaints to Events Management Catering, think Fax also have them now and they are just as bad there.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Quote ="Red Preacher"An atmosphere? Something distinctly lacking in contemporary, corporate and clinical stadia.'"
'atmosphere' isn't some magic formula which can be bought at your local supermarket - it's something that's created by US,the fans -=#FF0000Yes, I'm fully aware of that. Although there are other factors involved. you go to a Stade Toulousain RU home game and you will find your 'atmosphere'=#FF0000 Equally, the atmospheres at the DW, HJ, KC and LSV are distinctly lacking in comparison to their former stadiums. (Something many of these teams own fans have commented on) So what do you propose happened in Wigan, Warrington, Hull and Leigh? (Outside derby games) Perhaps the contemporary, corporate and clinical nature of their stadia is a factor? '"
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| I've mentioned this before but it'd be great to see the SMC do things differently on the catering front at the new stadium. A freshly prepared, healthy-ish menu with quality ingredients (eg. the cheese, ham and salad rolls you get at Italian football, good quality bratwurst, jacket potatoes perhaps) with a more imaginative drinks selection (a local ale, decent continental lager, I'm sure there must be a local company that makes soft drinks (Ben Shaws?)) would show a little bit of leadership and initiative, especially if SCC could get involved from a health initiative perspective (yes I know bratwurst isn't the healthiest food but it has to be better than a death burger).
We can do without another identikit stadium that serves boiled hot dogs and over-priced watered down Carling.
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| Quote ="Diavolo Rosso"I've mentioned this before but it'd be great to see the SMC do things differently on the catering front at the new stadium. A freshly prepared, healthy-ish menu with quality ingredients (eg. the cheese, ham and salad rolls you get at Italian football, good quality bratwurst, jacket potatoes perhaps) with a more imaginative drinks selection (a local ale, decent continental lager, I'm sure there must be a local company that makes soft drinks (Ben Shaws?)) would show a little bit of leadership and initiative, especially if SCC could get involved from a health initiative perspective (yes I know bratwurst isn't the healthiest food but it has to be better than a death burger).
We can do without another identikit stadium that serves boiled hot dogs and over-priced watered down Carling.'"
Quality idea. With thinking like that you'll go far. Perhaps, perhaps even as far as London...
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Quote ="DemonUK"Newest age wise, all the ones you mention are old stadia as you well know, no building yet then...
No rush now eh now Wakeys has been sent for public inquiry.
So I reckon I'll still have my sig until at least the middle of 2012, and I should then be removing it as Saints ground should be ready. I'm fairly confident the Salford Fairy Tale Stadium will not be ready before Saints ground'"
Saints ground should be finished by no later than the end of October 2011.
Work at Saints has been ongoing now since the end of August.
You can watch the stadium being built on this website.
Live webcam.
www.the-new-sthelens-stadium.co.uk/
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Quote ="DemonUK"Newest age wise, all the ones you mention are old stadia as you well know, no building yet then...
No rush now eh now Wakeys has been sent for public inquiry.
So I reckon I'll still have my sig until at least the middle of 2012, and I should then be removing it as Saints ground should be ready. I'm fairly confident the Salford Fairy Tale Stadium will not be ready before Saints ground'"
Saints ground should be finished by no later than the end of October 2011.
Work at Saints has been ongoing now since the end of August.
You can watch the stadium being built on this website.
Live webcam.
www.the-new-sthelens-stadium.co.uk/
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Saints ground should be finished by no later than the end of October 2011.
Work at Saints has been ongoing now since the end of August.'"
Strange that , I drove past 3 weeks ago , and apart from the road works nothing was happening , if they want it finished by this time next year they are pushing things , from what I have been told they wont actually play there until 2013
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| Quote ="Starbug"Strange that , I drove past 3 weeks ago , and apart from the road works nothing was happening , if they want it finished by this time next year they are pushing things , from what I have been told they wont actually play there until 2013'"
Quite a lot has been happening on site as the photos from Gruntfuttock and myself show.
Though of course nothing in the past week due to it being christmas
That website by the way is the construction companies website, its nothing to do with Saints.
In daytime once the snow has cleared you can see the base for the pitch laid out on the webcam.
Building the physical stadium is pretty much the straight forward part. That is due to start at the end of January when foundations are laid.
As things stand they have levelled the land, clearing all the toxic materials away. Filled in the mine workings and diverted gas mains and other utilities. This all after they demolished the former glass works.
Putting up the stadium and Tescos itself should not take that long.
Warringtons entire stadium project took just 8 months from clearing the land to finishing the stadium.
Saints stadium is contracted for 14 months starting August 2010. Therefore if they dont finish by the end of next October then the builders will be out of pocket as penalty clauses will kick in.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"
So I reckon I'll still have my sig until at least the middle of 2012, and I should then be removing it as Saints ground should be ready. I'm fairly confident the Salford Fairy Tale Stadium will not be ready before Saints ground'"
Despite it seemingly being ahead?
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Quite a lot has been happening on site as the photos from Gruntfuttock and myself show.
Though of course nothing in the past week due to it being christmas
That website by the way is the construction companies website, its nothing to do with Saints.
In daytime once the snow has cleared you can see the base for the pitch laid out on the webcam.
Building the physical stadium is pretty much the straight forward part. =#FF0000That is due to start at the end of January when foundations are laid. As things stand they have levelled the land, clearing all the toxic materials away. Filled in the mine workings and diverted gas mains and other utilities. This all after they demolished the former glass works.
Putting up the stadium and Tescos itself should not take that long.
Warringtons entire stadium project took just 8 months from clearing the land to finishing the stadium.
Saints stadium is contracted for 14 months starting August 2010. Therefore if they dont finish by the end of next October then the builders will be out of pocket as penalty clauses will kick in.'"
That gives 3 to 4 weeks to complete all of the piling, complete all of the pile caps, install all underground drainage and service ducts then pour the foundations. Your correct installing precast concrete to form the stadium structure is the easy bit and will move quite quickly but there is a lot of work to do before that starts and it won't happen at the end of January.
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| Quote ="bongs tony"That gives 3 to 4 weeks to complete all of the piling, complete all of the pile caps, install all underground drainage and service ducts then pour the foundations. Your correct installing precast concrete to form the stadium structure is the easy bit and will move quite quickly but there is a lot of work to do before that starts and it won't happen at the end of January.'"
Sorry bit of a misunderstanding due to the way ive worded things by using the word "foundations", to try to make things understandable to as many people as possible.
Tecnnically its the piling that is due to start at the end of January.
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