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| I have to aplogise at this point people
But I am finding this thread particularily amusing
As has just been stated , You HAVE to make this stadium work for you , you dont have any other options
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| Short-term yes but the long-term is worrying:
-our crowd impresses no one (except in passion) and Super League demand better
-we depend a great deal on Mr Wilkinson's finances and he is not a spring chicken
-we also need to build on this season so we are attractive to the stadium company.
We know each other and know we are mad reds but, no, I am worried.
I was "involved" (Town Team) with Oldham when it went tits up and look what's happened since.
Sadly Star - is right.
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| Isn't it just great that the club didn't even know about the blue seats I'm telling you next thing you know it will be ''oh sorry Sale are actually playing in the parker pen rolls royce challenge trophy against Luctonian Old Boys you're gonna have to play another day, sorry'' Bloody hell doesn't feel as if we have a home anymore.
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| Aside from much else, it looks sh*t.
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| Your all so wrong.
Just had a ride down and looked at the heinous blue seats and there is infact two different shades of blue seats, give you all double to bitch about.
Quote ="Solly"I'm telling you next thing you know it will be ''oh sorry Sale are actually playing in the parker pen rolls royce challenge trophy against Luctonian Old Boys you're gonna have to play another day, sorry'' Bloody hell doesn't feel as if we have a home anymore.'"
Were you one of the people who actually didn't/don't like playing on a Friday? As I said when I spoke to the club before for next season the only reason the club will change from Fridays will be if SKY wan to put us on the box.
Quote ="Ave It!"
Deep down do you think this stadium will work?'"
If it doesn't it won't be because the seats are blue, we have to change playing days because of other tennants it will be because the club is poorly run and the fodder on the pitch is crap.
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| Can I just say, and it doesn't really link with the seat argument, that people keep saying that it isn't our stadium (and how much does it fell like that right now ) but can I just add that if it wasn't for Salford City Reds RLFC and it's need for a stadium that provides the standards that Super league and indeed the licence process requires, there wouldn't be a stadium at all. There is no way the Council and to a bigger extent Peel would have even thought about the concept let alone funded the building of it, if it hadn't been for Red City Developments initial idea which was to safeguard, secure and future fund the Rugby club then as I say there would be no stadium, it hasn't/isn't been built for Sale, Swinton, Man Utd or anyone else for that matter, it’s being built for Salford Rugby League and the wider Salford community, so is it our stadium? Just a thought.
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| Quote ="king of the shed"*SNIP*'"
How very dare you bring common sense and a non alarmist view to things, you should have your head firmly lodged up your ar$e and be bleeting on about being second class tennants.
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| With us at present being the only paying tenants then surely it is in Peel's and the Council's interest that we succeed? Especially as there will be debts on all sides to pay off.
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| Can I suggest this is the perfect tune for the players to run out too?
"Blue (Da Ba De)"
Yo listen up here's a story
About a little guy that lives in a blue world
And all day and all night and everything he sees
Is just blue like him inside and outside
Blue is his house with a blue little window
And a blue corvette
And everything is blue for him and hisself
And everybody around
Cos he ain't got nobody to listen to
I'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
I have a blue house with a blue window.
Blue is the colour of all that I wear.
Blue are the streets and all the trees are too.
I have a girlfriend and she is so blue.
Blue are the people here that walk around,
Blue like my corvette, it's standing outside.
Blue are the words I say and what I think.
Blue are the feelings that live inside me.
I'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
I have a blue house with a blue window.
Blue is the colour of all that I wear.
Blue are the streets and all the trees are too.
I have a girlfriend and she is so blue.
Blue are the people here that walk around,
Blue like my corvette, it's standing outside.
Blue are the words I say and what I think.
Blue are the feelings that live inside me.
I'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
Inside and outside blue his house
With the blue little window and a blue corvette
And everything is blue for him and hisself
And everybody around cause he aint got
Nobody to listen to
I'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
I'm blue (da ba dee da ba die)
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| Here is a point and its only a small miniscule one......who gives a natts a$$ about blue seats??? Be feckin grateful because without those blue seats we wouldnt have a stadium and without a stadium we have no SL licence......end of really
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| Thread of the year for nonsense.
Its out of our hands. If you are in the slightest bit upset then contact the Council please.
Can we move on?
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| Should just fit out the whole stadium with brown seats.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Thread of the year for nonsense.'"
Better than "he is coming?"
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| Quote ="Michigan red"How very dare you bring common sense and a non alarmist view to things, you should have your head firmly lodged up your ar$e and be bleeting on about being second class tennants.'"
I'm pretty sure he's agreeing with everyone who is saying we are getting cocked around with Barton despite, as I put earlier, if it wasn't for us there would be no ground. Feel free to ask him though.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Can I suggest this is the perfect tune for the players to run out too?
"Blue (Da Ba De)"
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Is it still the school holidays?
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Can I just say, and it doesn't really link with the seat argument, that people keep saying that it isn't our stadium (and how much does it fell like that right now
) but can I just add that if it wasn't for Salford City Reds RLFC and it's need for a stadium that provides the standards that Super league and indeed the licence process requires, there wouldn't be a stadium at all. There is no way the Council and to a bigger extent Peel would have even thought about the concept let alone funded the building of it, if it hadn't been for Red City Developments initial idea which was to safeguard, secure and future fund the Rugby club then as I say there would be no stadium, it hasn't/isn't been built for Sale, Swinton, Man Utd or anyone else for that matter, it’s being built for Salford Rugby League and the wider Salford community, so is it our stadium? Just a thought.'"
Substitute Leigh Centurions in that statement and you could have copied it off the Leythers board from 4 years ago
Yes it is yours , use it , or lose it
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| Didn't the high level section of the main stand at The Willows have blue seats?
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| Quote ="king of the shed"...can I just add that if it wasn't for Salford City Reds RLFC and it's need for a stadium that provides the standards that Super league and indeed the licence process requires, there wouldn't be a stadium at all.'"
I'm going to use this statement as a starting point. KOTS is absolutely correct... If it wasn't for Salford City Reds... there would be no stadium at all.... so.... Why not build it with a specification to suit the club. We should fit into that stadium like a glove... so do we ? Not at all.
I make my point again... this isn't so much about just having blue seats. This is about not having enough of a say in a stadium that will be primarily used for Salford City Reds home games. I just can't see how people can't see this. It's not as trivial as many may see it.
Yes we are grateful for the assistance from other parties in getting us this opportunity... but what will be the next kick in the teeth ?
Perhaps the next one will be seeing the main stand with the Reds logo at one end.... and the Sale Sharks one at the other end ? Will that be so trivial ?
The one after that will be getting our games moved to accommodate a Rugby Union game because that will be the bigger crowd pull ? Will that be so trivial ?
When will it get to a point when some people say.... 'Hang on a minute... something ain't right here... why isn't anybody speaking up ?'
How bad does it have to get ?.... Salford try to arrange a game for a Friday night... and being told that Maureen has booked a Zumba class at 7.30 so we'll have to move the game
Far fetched I know... but you get my point.
So please... see this as not just a bunch of the wrong colour seats... see this as the club not having the balls to stand up... and instead being a yes sir no sir club.... The club should be standing up to whoever made these decisions and saying 'NO'
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"The club should be standing up to whoever made these decisions and saying 'NO''"
And then the only answer is well if you don't like then your more than welcome to go find some place else to play!!
So much scare mongering it's bordering on the paranoid by so many.
For all we know Wilky and the club are getting consecions for things like this.
If I recall didn't we give the council the land the Willows is built on buck she in exchange for the council building the new ground? there if that is the case must be cast iron agrements on certain things reguarding the use of of the new ground. Dount very much if the council could dick us about to much and doubt very much if they would want to either.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"And then the only answer is well if you don't like then your more than welcome to go find some place else to play!!
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If it wasn't for the fact we're stuck in the contract with them. If we turned around and said " ok we'll go" I'm sure they would be pandering to our needs pretty bloody sharpish. An empty stadium is no good to anyone that owns it. And even with Sale as tenants they'd still get worried big time.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"And then the only answer is well if you don't like then your more than welcome to go find some place else to play!!'"
Highly unlikely... The club will just continue to back down because of that 'no option'.
There may be a huge level of paranoia on here... and I may be one of them... But it must stem from somewhere... I wonder where that could be ?
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| Quote ="LoyalFan"Highly unlikely... The club will just continue to back down because of that 'no option'.
There may be a huge level of paranoia on here... and I may be one of them... But it must stem from somewhere... I wonder where that could be ?
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Paranoia- characterized by delusions of grandeur and persecution,unfounded fear,suspicion.
This says it all, thankfully some people are not affected by it,we still have fans who are grateful for what we have got, who are not bothered what colour the seats are.
Fans who understand the problems that the club have had and still have, fans who understand that if the council/Peel spends millions building a new stadium they will have a big say in running the set up.
Fans who know what finance the Chairman and directors have put into the club over many years with lots of brickbats thrown at them for their efforts.
I am off to the doctor tomorrow to see why I am eagerly awaiting the new season in a new stadium,with all new seats of differing colours,the possibility of bigger crowds all cheering the team on, no Mcrae out chants, Steve Simms being cheered on and off the pitch,decent floodlights, new toilets etc,etc,etc.when some others are not.
I dont want Sale here, but if they do come I'll not lose any sleep over it and I wont be watching them.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Didn't the high level section of the main stand at The Willows have blue seats?'"
Yes they did and they were cushioned, now if the blue seats in the Mainstand are cushioned that would be the biggest turnaround ever we would all be fighting for the seats then...
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red" Steve Simms being cheered on and off the pitch,'"
I think you and your doc need to lower your dose
I'm really surprised nobody has tried to pin this blue sea trauma on SS still time yet tho...
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| Quote ="Original Salford City Red"Paranoia- characterized by delusions of grandeur and persecution,unfounded fear,suspicion.
This says it all, thankfully some people are not affected by it,we still have fans who are grateful for what we have got, who are not bothered what colour the seats are.
Fans who understand the problems that the club have had and still have, fans who understand that if the council/Peel spends millions building a new stadium they will have a big say in running the set up.
Fans who know what finance the Chairman and directors have put into the club over many years with lots of brickbats thrown at them for their efforts.
I am off to the doctor tomorrow to see why I am eagerly awaiting the new season in a new stadium,with all new seats of differing colours,the possibility of bigger crowds all cheering the team on, no Mcrae out chants, Steve Simms being cheered on and off the pitch,decent floodlights, new toilets etc,etc,etc.when some others are not.
I dont want Sale here, but if they do come I'll not lose any sleep over it and I wont be watching them.'"
Don't get me wrong... I know exactly what the Chairman has put into the club... Part of the problem for me is that very fact... He deserves a stadium that is screaming Salford City Reds.
I understand everything that has been put in... and I do know the implications into being the tenants of a much bigger machine... but I also feel that this is the start of being completely owned... and bossed about... and certainly made to feel that we should be grateful all the time.
I'm pleased that you are excited by the floodlights... and that you can happily p!$$ in comfort... but some of us hope for more than that... while others are happy to be finishing in the bottom 4 or 5 every season and think that everyone who wants and expects more have 'delusions of grandeur' ... and run on a daily basis by people who don't understand or like the sport that our team plays.
Whatever you think of those who aren't happy about this latest development... the fact is... they/we all care enough to kick off about such a trivial thing.
I guess you'll be over the moon when it looks like this....
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