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| Quote ="Starbug"Oh dear ! , never mind
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To be fair we have an excellent relationship with SCC, it's them that have got this Stadium where it is now, I think we'll be Ok.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"what about Leeds?'"
Leeds - have redeveloped headingly to a standard required by the RFL and the RFL wont tell Leeds what to do
Hull KR - just secured funds to redevelop the stadium
Hull - new stadium
Warrinton - new stadium
Huddersfield - new stadium
Wigan - new stadium
Salford - new stadium plans
Saints - new stadium plans
Bradford - new stadium plans
Cass - new stadium plans
Wakefield - new stadium plans
The below 3 dont matter as they can do what they want with the full backing of the RFL;
Crusaders
Quinns
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The fact is we couldnt redevelope the Willows to the "required" standard, Im almost certain this was looked at and with the limited space and surrounding area plus cost just wasnt feasible.
Whether all the above planned builds happen is another matter, I would just like to see ours built and us playing in it, as was previously said its what we're getting, but has the provision for expansion.
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| Quote ="king of the shed"To be fair =#FF0000we have an excellent relationship with SCC, it's them that have got this Stadium where it is now, I think we'll be Ok.'"
I hope you are right , because if you are wrong , it could be the biggest mistake your club ever makes
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| Quote ="Starbug"That'll be the drugs
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Ha. If only. I'm one of those clean living types which leaves me with some unanswered questions...
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"I really don't think it's an issue of mediocity of ambition within the club - the inital plans were stunning, but events just happened to knock that off course.
I agree a national RL stadium would be superb, but first you'd have have to get the RFL to back it (and they seem more interested in pouring good money after bad with the likes of Harlequins and Crusaders!), then you'd have to get all the other chairmen to agree - a bit like pushing water uphill!!
For me, the fact we are getting a new stadium (with room for expansion if things go well) and the board have obviously put money into recruitment and strengthening the team next season all bodes well - please, please let's get behind the club and stop whinging - IF folk are a bit disappointed then just keep it to yourself and put out some positive signals instead.
We all need to do what we can to promote Salford City Reds in this great new opportunity.'"
As much as I may not agree with a few of your points I do appreciate them all the same. Indeed, I recognise my personal outlook on this matter is somewhat more radical and beyond the consensus. Neverthless, I mean no harm to the club and certainly don't feel as though I'm "whinging". Merely expressing an alternative opinion. If anything, my angst lies at the door of British society which still seems to be biased in favour of the south-east/affluent. It's almost as though 'thinking-big' is a crime if you don't happen to be from the right part of the country. Indeed, I also feel that this particular mindset has been adopted by the RL community. Self-fulfilling prophecy and all that... Hey, who knows. "I only know one thing; I know nothing." (Socrates.)
I fully expect alternative opinions to be aired in this debate. Which is cool. But, I mean not to be rude but that's all I wish to contribute on the matter.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"As much as ... Hey, who knows. "I only know one thing; [size=150I know nothing[/size." (Socrates.)'"
I thought it was Manuel from Fawlty Towers!
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Ha. If only. I'm one of those clean living types which leaves me with some unanswered questions...
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In other words he's a bit of a bore
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| Quote ="Starbug"it could be the biggest mistake your club ever makes'"
We don't have a choice.
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| Quote ="Chico"We don't have a choice.'"
We didn't either , hopefully you still have some bargaining power , you must if at all possible have control of the stadium with regards
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| We do have a very very good relationship with the council, even the Swinton councillors, and hopefully this relationship will grow with Salford supporters with in the council.
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| Quote ="Starbug"We didn't either , hopefully you still have some bargaining power , you must if at all possible have control of the stadium with regards
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I think we'll be OK - there are some excellent Income streams - not least the Banqueting. Fear not.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"I think we'll be OK - there are some excellent Income streams - not least the Banqueting. Fear not.'"
We have excellent Banqueting facilities at Leigh , problem is they are that expensive nobody wants to use them , yes you should find it easier than us given your location and the level you will be playing at , but seriously you lose control of those income streams and you will struggle
You have a lot of expensive work to be done to make the new stadium a success attendance wise , that will need to be paid for , it will take several years
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| any news weather there's been anymore happenings? what with the weather being crap an all!?
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| Quote ="gazthered"=#FF0000any news weather there's been anymore happenings? what with the =#FF0000weather being crap an all!?'"
Yes apparently they will be starting in May when it warms up
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| It was mentioned by Dave Tarry in the recent press conference that talk's between Salford Reds & the Council about a ' New Stadium ' started as far back as 1996 .
We had been unceremoniously shoved out of the newly formed SL the year previously , albeit by our league position but the ground facilities & image of the club was an issue to our inclusion in SL even then.
By 2007 our submission for a franchise place in SL nailed our colours to the mast, we have no choice but to deliver on our promise of new ground / facilities.
it's now 2010 , a recession on and our new ground is essentially an off -the-shelf economy option , not RL's Bernabeu.
However in it's favour
1. it's happening
2. It's only 3.8 Miles down the road from the old place
3. It has two Training pitches + Changing Pavillion on site
4. It can be improved
so what ever the reservations of the move , we've got next season to really give the old place a good send off!
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| starbug, you are one boring repetative man that I don't think I've seen one positive post on any thread
anyway back to the stadium, drove over last night. Couldn't really see much just some cabins but it was dark, was just wondering if anybody had more of an update?
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| Quote ="gazthered"starbug, =#FF0000you are one boring repetative man that I don't think I've seen one positive post on any thread
anyway back to the stadium, drove over last night. Couldn't really see much just some cabins but it was dark, was just wondering if anybody had more of an update?'"
Why thank you
There's only me keeping the thread going , I'm sure John and the lads will be pulling out all the stops to shut me up
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"Leeds - have redeveloped headingly to a standard required by the RFL and the RFL wont tell Leeds what to do
Hull KR - just secured funds to redevelop the stadium
Hull - new stadium
Warrinton - new stadium
Huddersfield - new stadium
Wigan - new stadium
Salford - new stadium plans
Saints - new stadium plans
Bradford - new stadium plans
Cass - new stadium plans
Wakefield - new stadium plans
The below 3 dont matter as they can do what they want with the full backing of the RFL;
Crusaders
Quinns
Catalan
The fact is we couldnt redevelope the Willows to the "required" standard, Im almost certain this was looked at and with the limited space and surrounding area plus cost just wasnt feasible.
Whether all the above planned builds happen is another matter, I would just like to see ours built and us playing in it, as was previously said its what we're getting, but has the provision for expansion.'"
Catalan DO matter and are doing their bit to respect the requirements of the RFL - witness the new west stand curently under construction on the Catalan Dragons board forum under 'stadium redevelopment' so do some groundwork before putting the boot in - can't say about Quins or Crusaders tho'.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Why thank you
There's only me keeping the thread going , I'm sure John and the lads will be pulling out all the stops to shut me up
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no one has the power to shut you up ! even if only 1% of your drivel has some credibility then it's worth listening to - keep up the drivel
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| Quote ="sanjunien"no one has the power to shut you up ! even if only 1% of your drivel has some credibility then it's worth listening to - keep up the drivel'"
Dirkdiggler was correct , Catalans dont matter when it comes to stadia , that is not their purpose in the grand scheme of things
It is irrelivant if they play at a 5,000 capacity dump or a 50,000 super stadium , their purpose is to improve the French national team , unfortunatly it isn't as simple as that , although long term it should happen
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| Quote ="Starbug"Dirkdiggler was correct , Catalans dont matter when it comes to stadia , that is not their purpose in the grand scheme of things
It is irrelivant if they play at a 5,000 capacity dump or a 50,000 super stadium , their purpose is to improve the French national team , unfortunatly it isn't as simple as that , although long term it should happen'"
Catalans DO matter in the whole scheme of things,especially in france of course but to the RFLs great vision of expansionism
do you prefer the amenities of a decent stadium or some of the present dross which is still somehow allowed to charge hard-earned cash to watch a minor sport ? Does it matter that Odsal is improved or not ? by all accounts it's not changed much since the 70s & 80s when I was last in the stadium !
what is their purpose in the grand scale of things by the way ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Catalans DO matter in the whole scheme of things,especially in france of course but to the RFLs great vision of expansionism
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My understanding of the original comment was not that Catalans do not matter as a club, but that in terms of Super League Licenses and stadiums, Catalans, Crusaders and Harlequins are not under the same pressures as heartland clubs to upgrade stadiums or get kicked out, so that those three clubs do not matter in a stadium debate.
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| Quote ="Iain"My understanding of the original comment was not that Catalans do not matter as a club, but that in terms of Super League Licenses and stadiums, Catalans, Crusaders and Harlequins are not under the same pressures as heartland clubs to upgrade stadiums or get kicked out, so that those three clubs do not matter in a stadium debate.'"
Iain you got it in one.
Quote ="sanjunien"so do some groundwork before putting the boot in '"
So I suggest you read & understand posts before getting all shirty
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"Iain you got it in one.
So I suggest you read & understand posts before getting all shirty'"
not at all shirty mon ami,just pointing out that the Cats are doing their best to improve conditions for Joe Public despite their own financial problems so maybe they should be applauded
As a Saints fan I know which stadium I prefer to watch a match if it's ever been a choice between Knowlsley & Brutus
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