Yeah I know the ins and outs mate and I know very, very well the future plans (or not as the case may be) but the cost is still pretty high in comparison to other new stadium developments that have sprung up or are in the process of being. And considering we haven't got a roof that covers the whole stadium, it's actually a very expensive stadium.

Perhaps the 26m figure includes all the associated costs of building a new stadium rather than just the actual phase one build cost. Maybe the 26m also includes phases 2 and 3 of the development and all the associatied costs. I know an extra 4m was spent on the remediation.
I do know where you are coming from though because the general cost for stadia used to be based on a factor of around £1000 a seat. eg 12,000 x £1000 = 12m (Then add a bit on for inflation)

Yes we had ' Leigh Centurions ' signage on our CGI

Yet we still dont have it on the stadium , we asked to relocate something ' iconic ' from Hilton Park , but were refused that as well

1st the Green seats , now they can't get our name right . guys who did this CGI must be from an area where Salford is unheard of ..... Manchester.

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Yes, Link roads infrastructure, stadium, 2 training pitchs & Pavillion. etc

Foundations on the other three stands for potential Phases 2-3 are in the banking preparations in phase 1

so is there only one road in one road out?

Initially yes from the A57 but I understand a road for non public motor traffic use will be available for emergency service vehicles only. I understand this service road will connect to a sub road of Peel Green road. Future plans are for a new dual carriageway running parallel to the M60 on the Trafford Centre side (Anti-clockwise). This road will run from the Peel Green roundabout with a traffic light turn under Barton bridge into the stadium site and then veering left past the back of the Soccer Dome and linking to the existing roads directly to the Trafford Centre. There will also be new slip road from the stadium site on to the M60 (Clockwise direction)

A couple more CGI's of the first phase of the new stadium below:-

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Somebody better get the windows put through on those opposition coaches pretty sharpish!

There are actually quite a few grounds with only one road in and out. Wigan, Leigh, Wembley!! I don't think access to the ground is going to be anymore difficult than at present getting to the Willows.

The original CGI I saw had the corners covered or was this the later phases?

Does anyone recall this and do they have a link.

I recall that the corners are to be added at a later date.

With a bit of luck, yes.

You are correct the corner terracing was originally in phase one. I'm told this was changed to phase 2 because non of the building contractors that tendered could meet the build price target figure of phase one.

Suppose we have to move but gotta say I'm a little more than dissappointed with that stadium design. Yes I know all the pro's and con's so don't bother replying with some BS. Just dissappointed thats all!

Im with you two above, just to get my head around this is the pic below what it will look like after phase 3 or was this the original phase one and it has now changed again as it looks some what different to what we are now getting.

Apart from the banqueting suite is there going to be drinking facilites.
Ive also not heard anyone mention or seen in the plans if a watering hole is planned to be built near by such as a brewers fayre or toby cavery?


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That looks like phase 3 to me, with standing along one side.

Ah? If that's the case not all bad I suppose but do you have any idea of time scales to reach phase 3 Iain or am I expected to be in my zimmer by then?

I guess the timescale is a bit of an unanswerable one at the moment. The ground will be growing with the growing support the Reds get. So i guess its 'the more friends you bring the faster it will be developed'.

Right, I guess it'll never get to the capacity of The Willows then, we may get the odd full house of around 8k but I doubt we'll ever achieve much beyond that unless we could maintain a winning side for a few years. They'd probably then start 2nd and 3rd stage only for us to be down on our luck again! Not good.

The future development depends on two things.

Firstly financial matters, they will not consider upgrading until the retail has been sold off thus getting back the money they will have already laid out.

And the secondly the team/clubs performance, there will have to be the need to increase the capacity so for me it looks like it's be 12k for a very, very long time.

Oh and without sounding like I'm having a whinge, I agree the final design (if this is it) is fairly disappointing without anything being unique about the stadium. Even the main stand roof and floodlights are now looking to be bog standard, when before they had a little something about them.

I know what you mean but quite frankly I don't give a to*s as long as we keep our license and attract new sponsors/fans, allowing us to improve the quality of the squad.

Phase 1 is 12,000, so bigger than the Willows. Phase 2 = 15,000 and Phase 3 = 20,000. Who knows when/if we'll move beyond phase 1 though when you consider Wire haven't upped the HJ yet despite regularly coming close to capacity. I can't see us being used for a semi final host ground with a 12,000 capacity - maybe we'll get Engand v France/PNG type games.

100% agree with you "theredshed"

So hypothetically speaking, are we saying that most of us would have preferred to stay at The Willows than move into that atrocity of a stadium, if, we could have attracted better sponsorship, more fans, better players and a superleague licence?

to me thats a nonsense question of course I would have rather stayed at the Willows if we could have met all the criteria you mentioned, but unfortunately its not just a matter of meeting those requirements the RFL dont want old rugby stadia anymore they want shiney min 12k capacity new builds, even if they are half empty and were stuck with what we are going to get.

Warrington have plans to increase the HJ to 18k over the next couple of years.

Atrocity?!