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| The last 'building due to start in......' was November wasn't it? There have been numerous of these announcements in the last few years, maybe this time they will start on time? Or maybe the cuts to council budgets might change a few things especially as the council had earmarked 20 million for it. Will they still be able to justify that outlay to the residents of Salford?
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| Firstly Salford council aren't putting the full amount in , it's a joint venture between Peel holdings aswell as the Council. Around 10 million each I beleive. Reagrding whether the cuts will affect the project I believe the funds have already been pledged and are in place for the stadium. Around 4 million pounds has already been spent of NWDA money for the ground work.
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| Quote ="alext" *Snip*'"
Spot on fella, many of you know where I work and some of my colleagues have been very close to all this over a very long time.
This is a Joint Venture Company formed between Salford City Council and Peel Holdings. The Joint Venture Company is the applicant for the application and the City Council have provided the Joint Venture Company with a loan to pay for the construction work and new infrastructure. The Joint Venture Company would own and manage the community stadium, with the Salford City Reds having a licence to use it.
The Council aren't [i giving[/i money they are [i lending[/i it to the JVC, money that has already been sourced and ring fenced. The Council will reap the rewards when the Retail development is opened via rents.
I've just had it confirmed that these spending cuts will have no impact on the stadium and there is absolutely no call in from the Secretary of State and all systems are go!
I'm also lead to believe that this money isn't coming directly out of Salford residents pockets the Council are borrowing it to lend to the JVC as in these times a private company would struggle to get that kind of loan direct from banks. It will be paid back over time and the council may even make out if it in the long term.
Salford City Council are determined that this Stadium happens, they have given it the fullest of support and see it as another jewel in the City’s crown, following the Lowry Centre, Lowry Hotel, BBC/Media City etc.
Sorry for the rant but there are far too many ill informed people taking guesses, pot shots and assumptions who are making comments.
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| Don't think you will be getting many come backs to that fella!
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| Quote ="PIPO"Don't think you will be getting many come backs to that fella! '"
Over to you, Starbug.
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| Starbug?
You have answered my question. I have noted that The Council or Peel Holdings have yet to put their hands into their pockets as the NWDA have funded the ground clearance/preparation. Do you have anyone to build the stadium yet? I know it was out to tender, but haven't seen anything about a final decision anywhere
ps I don't suppose the residents will have to stump up too much interest on 10 mill
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Starbug?'"
Yeah he does a fair bit of trolling on here about the new ground
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| I looked back over the posts just on this page. Anyway I was just asking questions. Although if building doesn't start in November, I will probably be back along with Starbug
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| Quote ="DemonUK"How much was Salford Council giving towards the costs? With the Government announcing big cuts to the amounts they give to local councils, the result could be a scuppering of plans of yourselves, Wakey and Cas.'"
Wakefield council are not putting any money into either Trinity or Cas's stadium.
Wakefield have full funding available as was confirmed today during the Planning Meeting.
Cas have a funding issue to which we hav'nt yet seen a proposed solution.
Wakefield and Cas now both have OPP but Castlefords is near to expiration as far as I know, I will stand corrected on this.
The momentum is now with Wakefield who are forging ahead with Full PP, have contractors ready and the money to get going.
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| Quote ="John Charnock"Over to you, Starbug.'"
I've never said you arent getting a stadium , just when you are getting a stadium ?
I still dont think you will see you first games if any in 2012 at Barton , I might be proved wrong ,
I havent been over the bridge for a while , but by my reckoning you have 60 weeks to do it , better get the tools out boys
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| Quote ="PIPO"Yeah he does a fair bit of trolling on here about the new ground'"
Me a ' troll ' , never , as I have said , we've been through it all already , just be patient , you probably are safe now , as it will be started in time , and this time the RFL will be just happy to see anything , rather than just pretty pictures
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Starbug?
You have answered my question. I have noted that The Council or Peel Holdings have yet to put their hands into their pockets as the NWDA have funded the ground clearance/preparation. Do you have anyone to build the stadium yet? I know it was out to tender, but haven't seen anything about a final decision anywhere
ps I don't suppose the residents will have to stump up too much interest on 10 mill'"
Regards to the builder, it's going to be officialy announced in the next week or so. Ground work finishes on the 5th of November, and the build will start within a fortnight.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Wakefield council are not putting any money into either Trinity or Cas's stadium.
Wakefield have full funding available as was confirmed today during the Planning Meeting.
Cas have a funding issue to which we hav'nt yet seen a proposed solution.
Wakefield and Cas now both have OPP but Castlefords is near to expiration as far as I know, I will stand corrected on this.
The momentum is now with Wakefield who are forging ahead with Full PP, have contractors ready and the money to get going.'"
(didn't you forget this bit)
The club is currently the subject of a winding up petition by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs.
On Thursday Wakefield confirmed an anonymous benefactor had offered to pay their tax bill, providing the stadium plans were approved.
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| Quote ="zandor46"(didn't you forget this bit)
The club is currently the subject of a winding up petition by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs.
On Thursday Wakefield confirmed an anonymous benefactor had offered to pay their tax bill, providing the stadium plans were approved.
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I'm not quite sure what thats got to do with it especialy since its now been resolved.
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| Anyone know what this is about!!!. Its a tweet that John Merry has just sent
"Hope Mary Ferrer does not speak for Salford Lib Dems In Demanding Stop Stadium. No Saving and would result in Salford being thrown out of Superleague
Dont tell me were in for more trouble
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| Mary Ferrer lost her seat last election, she does not like John Wilkinson, and campaigned against his plans for Buile hill park, she like all liberals would rather not see anything done and let buildings fall down, she used to moan about matchday parking as well, and people parking near her house, so she should be happy we are moving. Just like her leader Negative Norman a pair of dinosaurs licking the boots of the tories.
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| Nice pics BF - gutted about the plane sale though
Certainly starting to take shape - from the below you can pretty much see where the stadium and the training/community pitches will sit on the site, in fact the orange sandy area looks like it may be the bed of the stadium's pitch.
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| Quote ="Iain"Nice pics BF - gutted about the plane sale though
Certainly starting to take shape - from the below you can pretty much see where the stadium and the training/community pitches will sit on the site, in fact the orange sandy area looks like it may be the bed of the stadium's pitch.
'" So a lot more has been done than some people would have you belive.
Good news
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| Quote Have they finished shifting that big pile of dirt yet ?'"
It would seem you have , , well done
I will now forecast you will play your 1 st game on the flattened out dirt in May 2012
Lets see how close I am ?
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| The Sewage works look resplendant from the arial shots!!
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| Quote ="Marshy1"The Sewage works look resplendant from the arial shots!!
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Which one
We've two
Eccles
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Davyhulme's had more money ( 17M ) spent on it over the past 10 years , puts the Cap-ex for our stadium into perspective.
so come high summer, no matter which way the wind blows .....
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| Quote ="Marshy1"The Sewage works look resplendant from the arial shots!!
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It's there for Neil Barkers scoops!
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| Quote ="Marshy1"The Sewage works look resplendant from the arial shots!!
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You're right to laugh, it's going to be awful having a sewage works near our new stadium.
I take it you don't have any sewage works near your stadium?
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