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| 2 points thrown away. Are Cas a better team? Probably not on that showing but they were better prepared and wanted it more in that 1st half. They ran it in harder and were clearly the more motivated of the 2 teams. Who's that down to? We pull it back to 22 each and then have back to back sets under the sticks. Where's the 1 pointer? If we'd gone in front then heads may have dropped. Think we need an old head in there to steer us through games like these.
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| PR I don't always agree with you, but I do today!
Why Littler didn't get MOM is beyond me
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| First half we was absolutely shocking, no one communicating or even looking bothered, but the second half we absolutely out classed them, I think a draw would of been a fair result, just a shame Ganson and the other officials pretty much killed quite a few parts the game, we also made to many missed tackles and I don't have a clue why we didn't go for a DK, saying that we never do. I find it a joke how we let Witthers get a hat-trick aswell, and the one where he broke free what the hell was we doing there!? Not to sure why Holdsworth got MOM though and not Lueluai or Littler.
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| AFAIK the only posible match in 10+ years - both home and away - I have missed v Castleford is 2002 ... I cannot remember going to the Jungle that year.
However I cannot remember ever in this century coming away from a Cas game feeling owt but bitter (and plenty was supped afterwards).
Why?
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"First half we was absolutely shocking, no one communicating or even looking bothered, but the second half we absolutely out classed them, I think a draw would of been a fair result, just a shame Ganson and the other officials pretty much killed quite a few parts the game, we also made to many missed tackles and I don't have a clue why we didn't go for a DK, saying that we never do.
I find it a joke how we let Witthers get a hat-trick aswell, and the one where he broke free what the hell was we doing there!? Not to sure why Holdsworth got MOM though and not Lueluai or Littler.'"
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| No great surprise in the result. Mcrae can never get the players motivated against the teams that are around us in the league table.
2009 season:
Quins at home. 30-0 down after 30 mins, pulled back to 18-30 only to lose 18-48.
14-18 vs Hull at home (Hull had lost 6 on the bounce).
16-24 vs Quins at Murrayfield (late try made the score respectable)
25-12 away at Crusaders (the week after beating saints at home)
12-18 vs Cas (H). Dour game.
24-30 vs Wakefield (H). 12-30 down before 2 late tries.
Ths season:
16-36 vs Cusaders (H)
36-6 vs Wakefield (A) 28-0 down in no time.
30-12 vs Cas (A). Terrible performance.
And then onto todays debacle. 16-0 down after 15 mins. Not good enough.
We have had some good one off performances under Mcrae but that was a big loss today. Nothing to play for now. 7 points off the play offs with 9 games left. Wouldn't bet against us finishing bottom of the pile.
Quote ="Prestwich Red"Well I hope the people who were saying the club were wrong not to give Alker a extension to his contract will have seen today the club are exactly right.
We were back in the game when Smith was on at hooker, he then got clobbered and Alker came back on.
After that the play was again slow and predictable as it had been for most of the first half.
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16-0 to Salford while Alker was off the field. 28-6 to Cas whilst he was out on the pitch.
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| First half shocking, but 90% completion well done lads
Second half we woke up and got back in it, if only Mr Ganson had bothered as well he appeared to be p155ed off he got the match and missed a lot, not once did Cas stand straight at the PTB, we try it and guess what penalty. But I only wanted offside at the 20 tap to complete my referee bingo so thank you mr Ganson for that.
heres to next week and another victory for us.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"its widders not witthers who ever he might be.
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| It's gotta go down as one of the most frustrating performances of recent years. The defence down the middle in the first half was soft to say the least however we still had chances. Tyrer dropping the ball in the corner which would have made it 10/12-16. Next set of 6 Cas go down the other end and score again. Alkers break in the 1st half when nobody was alert, again we should have scored.
After getting back to 22-22, we lacked composure when we had them under pressure. Will somebody please tell Mr McRae that the 1 pointer is a useful weapon to have in close games and double whammy, we get the ball back.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"AFAIK the only posible match in 10+ years - both home and away - I have missed v Castleford is 2002 ... I cannot remember going to the Jungle that year.
However I cannot remember ever in this century coming away from a Cas game feeling owt but bitter (and plenty was supped afterwards).
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| Quote ="Branny"Will somebody please tell Mr McRae that the 1 pointer is a useful weapon to have in close games and double whammy, we get the ball back.'"
Surely that has to be down to the players???
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| Quote ="Towns88"Why bitter?'"
We never seem to play to our full potential against Cas. Salford RL have this innate ability to induce bitterness in their own fans.
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| Not the best game in the world yesterday. Its the same old story when we play these so called lesser teams. I thought individually we did ok but our sliding defence lost it for us and. What does me head in is when we play Cas, Crusdaders etc at home we get out enthused and that seems to be the difference. Theres nothing special about Cas, apart from Rangi Chase, they were just better prepared and more up for it. A better performance in the second half though[no boos helped
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| Quote ="corvospace"
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| Quote ="corvospace"Not the best game in the world yesterday. Its the same old story when we play these so called lesser teams. I thought individually we did ok but our sliding defence lost it for us and. What does me head in is when we play Cas, Crusdaders etc at home we get out enthused and that seems to be the difference. Theres nothing special about Cas, apart from Rangi Chase, they were just better prepared and more up for it. A better performance in the second half though[no boos helped
The most depressing thing yesterday was the attendance though
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so much for switching back to Sunday - we'd have got more on a Friday (although obviously not last Friday though!!)
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| I witness some special play yesterday once we'd started playing. Holdworth's move to set up Sibbit Was very Neil Baker-esc and Broughton's scorching try (Which was a proper wingers try) was something I don't think I've seen since Offiah against Hull FC a long while back. Stuart Littler was immense and was M.O.M by some distance (for us anyway).
But why oh why do we have to go behind every week before we start playing, only twice this season have we been behind at half time and gone on to win and only once have we lost a game when we've been in front at the break!
Salford 6 Castleford 22 – Lost 22-28
Hull FC 18 Salford 12 – Lost 34-12
Salford 6 Warrington 16 – Lost 10-27
Catalans 2 Salford 12 – Won 14-22
Salford 22 St Helens 18 – Won 42-34
Salford 12 Warrington 38 – Lost 16-68
Castleford 10 Salford 6 – Lost 30-12
Salford 4 Wigan 6 – Lost 4-18
Salford 16 Huddersfield 0 – Won 30-18
Warrington 10 Salford 2 – Lost 32-2
Salford 12 Hull FC 16 – Won 27-20
Wakefield 28 Salford 0 – Lost 36-6
Harlequins 12 – Salford 4 – Won 22-26
Salford 12 Catalans 8 – Lost 12-24
Salford 0 – Bradford 4 – Lost 0-7
Leeds 6 Salford 4 – Lost 22-10
Salford 12 Crusaders 14 – Lost 16-36
Hull KR 18 Salford 6 – Lost 30-12
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"We never seem to play to our full potential against Cas. Salford RL have this innate ability to induce bitterness in their own fans.'"
Ha you all but relegated us in 2004 & 2006!
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| Quote ="Towns88"Ha you all but relegated us in 2004 & 2006!'"
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| Quote ="PHOTO FINISH"[i
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No, imo its alot better playing on a Sunday for a number of reasons, Better quality rugby in the summer with the sun. Fans from yorkshire find it hard getting there on a Friday night, plus alot of our fans work late on a Friday too. I also think the atmosphere will be alot better because half the people are bladdered on a Friday and are more interested in slagging the players off rather than getting behind the team.
Cant really explain why it was so low yesterday though. Possibly because it was fathers day, as I only just made it myself
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| thought the few muppets that booed mcrae off at half time need to take there head for a wobble! He wasn't the one missing the tackles in the middle of the park, and the exploited our right side in the first half coz our sliding defence was terrible! What was said at half time seemed to work, and as i was saying to a bloke i was standing next too, after we scored first in the second half, they looked knackered! They were there for the taking and guess what, we get back on level terms and take our foot off the gas. Whether that was down to J.Smith coming off and alker coming back on again i dont know!
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"thought the few muppets that booed mcrae off at half time need to take there head for a wobble! He wasn't the one missing the tackles in the middle of the park, and the exploited our right side in the first half coz our sliding defence was terrible! What was said at half time seemed to work, and as i was saying to a bloke i was standing next too, after we scored first in the second half, they looked knackered! They were there for the taking and guess what, we get back on level terms and take our foot off the gas. Whether that was down to J.Smith coming off and alker coming back on again i dont know!'"
I was behind the sticks and didnt hear the booing. Dont tell me the muppets are at it again??
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| anther game that we where expected to win!!! we just cant get up for these sort of games. if we where sitting near the top we could say complaceny crept in... what do we say when where down there? jewitt wasnt injured im led to believe!!!!!
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Surely that has to be down to the players???'"
I've no idea but coaches seem to have the final say if there's a penalty in a kickable position.Shouldn't the coach be offering guidance and sending messages down to the players at 22-22, after all we have lost a fair few of these games by a 6-8 point margin in the last few years and i've lost count of the number where we've been camped in the oppositions 20 and come away with nothing, especially after taking a tap penalty. Let's try something different and see if we can win a few of these tight games. If it doesn't work then revert back to plan A. Get in front, get the ball back and let the other team play catch up. Having come back from 22-6 down the psychological advantage of going in front could have been the gamebreaker.
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