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| Quote ="Chico"The problem is what happens if the fans vote is roughly 50/50? In that instance my choice would be controversial: I would split matches between Fridays for Lancashire teams and Sundays for the rest, and Sky would take care of the odd Saturday, Thursday and Monday night. This is why I proposed the top-up membership a few weeks back.'"
If its 50/50 or near let the club then decide with their own market research.
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| Clearly there are at least 4 elements to be considered when making this decision:
1: Home fans
2: Away fans
3: Corporate Hospitality
4: Sky's evil influence
1: A poll amongst existing, lapsed and potential new home fans would I'm sure be very useful. FWIW I much prefer Friday nights as it leaves the rest of the weekend clear.
2: A significant addition to the revenue through the turnstiles comes from away fans, so some judgement call must be made as to which option would generate the highest away fan turnout. I'm sure that the M62 on a Friday evening is a big downer on the Yorkshire contingent travelling, it certainly influences my thoughts in the opposite direction.
3: The Corporate Hospitality argument was always used in the days of The Willows, but was that primarily in conjunction with the Willows Variety Club and is that argument still valid today? I have absolutely no idea on this one!
4: SKY - As has been said elsewhere, next season we should be proving to be of greater interest to the holders of the RL purse strings, so what effect will that have? Might we just be told that there will be more Monday or Thursday fixtures, or might we also see last minute rearrangements to suit them?
Finally, there was an argument some years ago that we needed to match our default playing day to others in the league to optimise recovery time - is that still valid and if so what direction does it suggest we go?
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Finally, there was an argument some years ago that we needed to match our default playing day to others in the league to optimise recovery time - is that still valid and if so what direction does it suggest we go?'"
Karl Harrison was fond of this. I guess the more you’re on Sky the harder it is to suit.
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"Clearly there are at least 4 elements to be considered when making this decision:
1: Home fans
2: Away fans
3: Corporate Hospitality
4: Sky's evil influence
1: A poll amongst existing, lapsed and potential new home fans would I'm sure be very useful. FWIW I much prefer Friday nights as it leaves the rest of the weekend clear.
2: A significant addition to the revenue through the turnstiles comes from away fans, so some judgement call must be made as to which option would generate the highest away fan turnout. I'm sure that the M62 on a Friday evening is a big downer on the Yorkshire contingent travelling, it certainly influences my thoughts in the opposite direction.
3: The Corporate Hospitality argument was always used in the days of The Willows, but was that primarily in conjunction with the Willows Variety Club and is that argument still valid today? I have absolutely no idea on this one!
4: SKY - As has been said elsewhere, next season we should be proving to be of greater interest to the holders of the RL purse strings, so what effect will that have? Might we just be told that there will be more Monday or Thursday fixtures, or might we also see last minute rearrangements to suit them?
Finally, there was an argument some years ago that we needed to match our default playing day to others in the league to optimise recovery time - is that still valid and if so what direction does it suggest we go?'"
Speaking from personal experience fridays are a real pain travel wise.
I basically have to go straight from work. If you work outside the area, its not easy to get home and get back to the stadium with Friday travel conditions and the congested mess the stadium is. Makes for a long day, if you factor the in the stadium car park lock down as well.
Means I am out of the house before 7am and don't get home until around 11pm.
However I am sure hospitality-wise friday is the better night.
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Because I think it will bring more away fans. More Families and as a consequence more kids for the long term fan prospect. We've got the Trafford Centre on our doorstep and the prospect of families able to shop, eat, then take in a game. Or split the Family to do whatever they want has to be a major draw for a Sunday or Saturday. Generally, there will be more options for fans on a day match.
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| My guess is the preference will be split down the middle Friday - Sunday . Fans wise
the same argument was discussed Willows Era , 2007-2008 Then Director Trish Goldsmith , maintained the Friday eve K/O was crucial for the Corporate business which with us running the Variety Centre end & running the Bar/ catering was supposedly good income.
As a tenant of the SCS I doubt this is true as Salford get a much smaller income.
My Guess next season , we are likely to be asked to play games
Thursday Eve, Friday Eve, Saturday 5pm , & Monday Eve , courtesy of Sky , and I also feel it is a good policy to schedule games against Yorks opposition for Sunday PM.
It's a bit daft to release Season Ticket info , if the club are still pondering the day & kick off times ? Who is going to buy not knowing the game day ??
I still maintain the Day is not crucial ,as an entertaining & 'winning ' side will attract a crowd no matter the day.
the crucial matter is publicising to fans well in advance
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| A mix for me, as Chico said Friday for local teams, Sunday for those from over the hill. On a personal level I am not bothered, always preferred Friday evening at the Willows, few drinks and night kick offs always a better atmosphere. Have to drive to Barton, so drinks out of the question. Let the club manage this and I will go along with the decision.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Sunday.
Because I think it will bring more away fans. More Families and as a consequence more kids for the long term fan prospect. We've got the Trafford Centre on our doorstep and the prospect of families able to shop, eat, then take in a game. Or split the Family to do whatever they want has to be a major draw for a Sunday or Saturday. Generally, there will be more options for fans on a day match.'"
Correct.
I think this is what the professionals will conclude.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Correct.
I think this is what the professionals will conclude.'"
These points will need to be put across in tonight's FR meeting.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"which by the way dwarfes people who work on Sundays and even if they do its only normally till dinner anyway.'"
That's funny. Everyone I know who works on a Sunday does so until at least 4pm. I'll have to tell them that they're being hard done to.
As for Fridays or Sundays, I'm not that fussed - it's a ballache for me to get home regardless. There needs to be a proper, balanced debate and research from the club about it, but I really don't think changing the day we play games is the magic solution to crowd problems that people think it is. We've seen poor crowds on weekends and big crowds on Fridays (and vice-versa, obviously), it's more to do with the team on the park, ticketing and numerous other issues than just what day and time we kick off.
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| I signed up last Thursday for a season ticket next year but if the club did make a complete seed change and go to a traditional Sunday 3pm KO I'd have to reconsider as I work a couple of full day Sundays twice a month.
A selfish point of view I know but for me Friday is infinately the better option as I can swap them around to cover football games with other people I work with, Sundays are already ear marked for that throughout the season overlap.
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| I much prefer Fridays, but I'm not restricted by work or anything, so Sundays wouldn't be the end of the world. A mix between the two might be the best option. If we have a decent team though, people will want to see us regardless of the day we play on.
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| Koukash just confirmed on twitter we will play most of our games on Sunday next season.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Koukash just confirmed on twitter we will play most of our games on Sunday next season.'"
He also seems to telling people SBW is coming next year as well
On the game day, that is slightly at odds with what Matthews and Wood said at Forever Reds so it looks like Koukash has made another executive decision.
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| He says he is also going on the Catalans away game and will be travelling and staying with the fans at Lloret de Mar.Oh dear,that could get really messy LOL
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| Bet with the new high profile the French game will be summer this year rather than right at the start of the season.
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| I think he deserves his own thread for his twitter posts! I noticed his big hint regarding SBW, wouldn't surprise me.
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| For those of us unhip enough not to use Twitter what has he been saying?
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I think he deserves his own thread for his twitter posts! I noticed his big hint regarding SBW, wouldn't surprise me.'"
Hopefully now that he is on twitter it will stop some of our fans hounding his 14 year old kid about signings and moving matches to Sundays, 'kin frightening.
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| Quote ="Walshovski"He also seems to telling people SBW is coming next year as well
On the game day, that is slightly at odds with what Matthews and Wood said at Forever Reds so it looks like Koukash has made another executive decision.'"
Not necessarily. Wood & Matthews suggested we're looking at playing the Yorkshire sides on Sundays. 7 Yorkshire sides means "most" games, just.
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| Has he mentioned playing at different times to Oldham ?
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Hopefully now that he is on twitter it will stop some of our fans hounding his 14 year old kid about signings and moving matches to Sundays, 'kin frightening.'"
Quite. I have noticed someone using the Twitter 'handle' "@dixonmikeymd" has been really laying it on thick with her, recently. Replying to posts that have nothing to do with Salford in order to push his "Sunday game" agenda. However, more recently, he seems to be targeting the good Doctor personally. I do hope he doesn't frighten him off.
He also seems to be a fan of Facebook polls, for some reason.
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| God... just looked that user up.
All of this in one day. With no replies from her.
@LaylaKoukash look how many people on facebook are asking for Sunday matches, we have 9000 fans on facebook change match days to suit them.
@LaylaKoukash well there not going now? Fridays at that stadium don't work it's not family friendly and too late for kids.
@LaylaKoukash honestly Layla your dad need to swap to Sundays you'd get thousands more!
@LaylaKoukash what If someone bought a season ticket thinking it would be Sunday matches then find out its Fridays,
@LaylaKoukash what if you work Friday nights mate? How you going to watch the math?
@LaylaKoukash why don't we put a vote on facebook to see what supporters want?
@LaylaKoukash don't you remember the big promotion v Bradford, there was an injury, because it went on so long all the mums started walking
@LaylaKoukash out with their kids. And another plus for Sundays is away fans can bring thousands more all more money in Salford coffers!
@LaylaKoukash your dad needs to move match days to Sundays, I've got loads of lads at work who want to get season tickets but work Fridays.
And that's without looking up the other pesterers. I hope the Good Doctor doesn't mind having his family bothered to this extent.
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