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| I don't want Nobbie Paul which I get the horrible feeling is where it might go.
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| Quote ="Happy Red"Scott Naylors coming back as assistant coach apparently.'"
Scott was in the hospitality area after the game on Saturday.
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| Good luck to you guys. Its about time one of us lower end clubs got some luck. Hopefully your gate numbers will grow up to and beyond the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Happy Red"Scott Naylors coming back as assistant coach apparently.'"
Hope not, there are some things about him that bother me.
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| I feel very inspired after watching the press conference video on the Manchester Evening News website. How long will it take before the Salford public start to realise the potential the club has now?
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| Quote ="Red Willow"Quote ="Happy Red"Scott Naylors coming back as assistant coach apparently.'"
Hope not, there are some things about him that bother me.'"
The Dr did say when he first took over was to get our " boys " back....... does Scott Naylor count?? Cant see it myself.
Exciting times do seem ahead now. The backroom staff seems to be taking shape nicely. Hopefully our fan base will improve too ( im sure a few decent wins will help!!).
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| Why would either Robbie Paul or Scott Naylor be anything other than a help to the cause?
To clarify, and to quote Nobby:
"First and foremost you have to want to play here, it ain't no good pulling in a load of mercenaries, it just doesn't work, trust me"
"...you've got to want to come and do something for this club...nobody's going to have their pants pulled down round here, it's not gonna be throwing moneybags at the problem".
BTW I've read he's being linked with the poisoned chalice at Cas, but would love to have Rhino back as an assistant. Defensive coach?
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| Just seen the interview on the Comics website and I have to admit that Noble comes across as being passionate and well versed on what is needed for the club. Think there are some home truth's already being spoken about the Marquee signing being Australian with the vast gulf in salary caps so think we can forget about signing the Ozzy back line anytime soon, do think players with 'baggage' like Duggan are your only bet for really high quality imports but guess that's a decision the powers that be at the club need to take about the risk of doing that.
I am really pleased with the noises being made about not being taken for a ride on salaries as was really worried that someone Morley might be brought in on a stupidly high salary.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Just seen the interview on the Comics website and I have to admit that Noble comes across as being passionate and well versed on what is needed for the club. '"
I actually think it will be a benefit that Noble hasn't coached for a couple of years. He will be fresh and hungry to put his mark on the club.
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| Quote ="theredshed"I actually think it will be a benefit that Noble hasn't coached for a couple of years. He will be fresh and hungry to put his mark on the club.'"
I know it's easy to talk a good game,but Noble came over really well and was very convincing in what he had to say.
Pressed all the right buttons,I thought.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Just seen the interview on the Comics website and I have to admit that Noble comes across as being passionate and well versed on what is needed for the club. Think there are some home truth's already being spoken about the Marquee signing being Australian with the vast gulf in salary caps so think we can forget about signing the Ozzy back line anytime soon, do think players with 'baggage' like Duggan are your only bet for really high quality imports but guess that's a decision the powers that be at the club need to take about the risk of doing that.
I am really pleased with the noises being made about not being taken for a ride on salaries as was really worried that someone Morley might be brought in on a stupidly high salary.'"
Considering the good doctor has a management consultancy, I'm sure he & Noble are more than capable of assessing the level of risk Duggan poses. There are very few players of his quality available, and if he wants to get back on the straight and narrow we may have to take that risk. If Morley wants to come for salary that reflects the amount of minutes he's capable of playing, the pride of playing for the team he supported as boy could work in our favour and bring in some extra local support.
I still believe we need to beat Warrington to the punch and get Darryl Clark. Other than that Frank Pritchard is out of contract, who would be immense in SL, and Graham might be a possibility, considering the bad press he got towards he end of last season.
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| Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan"Considering the good doctor has a management consultancy, I'm sure he & Noble are more than capable of assessing the level of risk Duggan poses. There are very few players of his quality available, and if he wants to get back on the straight and narrow we may have to take that risk. If Morley wants to come for salary that reflects the amount of minutes he's capable of playing, the pride of playing for the team he supported as boy could work in our favour and bring in some extra local support.
I still believe we need to beat Warrington to the punch and get Darryl Clark. Other than that Frank Pritchard is out of contract, who would be immense in SL, and Graham might be a possibility, considering the bad press he got towards he end of last season.'"
1. One benefit of having a Coach of Nobles Past experience & knowledge of the game is he will be able to control the urge to splash out on ' ill judged ' signings , and one pleasing comment - small steps or big steps , but the right steps , the other good response to the questions raised at the press do was - he would only bring players in this season if they were the right players .
2. Re so called Marquee signings , Any Current NRL stars are basically a non starter , for the financial reasons explained in the conference , Jamie Soward , mentioned by Ed Farish earlier in the season as a ' player we were talking to' has just signed a 4 year deal with Penrith [url=http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/dragons-star-jamie-soward-to-join-penrith-panthers-in-2014/story-e6frexqi-1226622772010Dragons star Jamie Soward to join Penrith Panthers in 2014[/url.
The only player from NRL would be those with talent who have erred so much no other NRL club will touch them , or those who want to escape the intense scrutiny of NRL attention - aka Joel Monaghan at Warrington - Jamie lyons at St Helens went he went AWOL . their risk factor would be assessed against their impact if they get their act together.
So we still may have to risk 150-250K + for a bonefide but troubled ' Star ' and he may turn out to be a doughnut .
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| Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan" and Graham might be a possibility, considering the bad press he got towards he end of last season.'"
"Bad press"?? He bit someone. In the grand final. Hardly surprising really.
Despite that he would be a quite magnificent signing for any SL club never mind us.
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| I still think we'll sign some top class NRL players.
Noble is mearly playing it down I think to keep everyone's guard down, otherwise why would he stay over in australia for so long? (Package holiday perhaps)
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| Quote ="middleman"1. One benefit of having a Coach of Nobles Past experience & knowledge of the game is he will be able to control the urge to splash out on ' ill judged ' signings , and one pleasing comment - small steps or big steps , but the right steps , the other good response to the questions raised at the press do was - he would only bring players in this season if they were the right players .
2. Re so called Marquee signings , Any Current NRL stars are basically a non starter , for the financial reasons explained in the conference , Jamie Soward , mentioned by Ed Farish earlier in the season as a ' player we were talking to' has just signed a 4 year deal with Penrith [url=http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/dragons-star-jamie-soward-to-join-penrith-panthers-in-2014/story-e6frexqi-1226622772010Dragons star Jamie Soward to join Penrith Panthers in 2014[/url.
The only player from NRL would be those with talent who have erred so much no other NRL club will touch them , or those who want to escape the intense scrutiny of NRL attention - aka Joel Monaghan at Warrington - Jamie lyons at St Helens went he went AWOL . their risk factor would be assessed against their impact if they get their act together.
So we still may have to risk 150-250K + for a bonefide but troubled ' Star ' and he may turn out to be a doughnut .'"
This gulf in pay between Superleague and the NRL/Rugby Union is very concerning.
The 'powers that be' are more concerned about the disparity of pay in our own competition than they are about the actual competition.
If this is allowed to continue the quality of rugby will suffer and the british game could return to the low attendance levels witnessed in the 1970's before Hull and Wigan lit the blue touch paper in the early 80's with big investment.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Quote ="LincolnDEVILSFan" and Graham might be a possibility, considering the bad press he got towards he end of last season.'"
"Bad press"?? He bit someone. In the grand final. Hardly surprising really.
Despite that he would be a quite magnificent signing for any SL club never mind us.'"
Granted, he did create that bad publicity for himself.
If the Aussie press makes life difficult for him, he could return to the UK. I seem to remember Morley had a hard time the disciplinary committee out there, some of his shots were high, but there were/are worse tackles that go unpunished.
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| If he's got anything like the balls that Morley had he will put this behind him and become an even better player down there than he already is.
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| Won't hide behind the fact I have no real desire to see your lot do well. Nor do I enjoy Koukash banging on about how hard done to you are every week.
However this is a great appointment for you guys and will no doubt at least make you more competitive (which for now is what our clubs need to be aiming for to get a stronger league).
You can't buy success in RL within a year or two it just doesn't happen (Wire took 6/7 years) yet in Noble you have a coach who is used to both improving results with sides he inherits and also building squads quickly to make big leaps from there.
Good to see a top British coach back in the top flight also!
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| Quote ="J20"Won't hide behind the fact I have no real desire to see your lot do well. Nor do I enjoy Koukash banging on about how hard done to you are every week.
However this is a great appointment for you guys and will no doubt at least make you more competitive (which for now is what our clubs need to be aiming for to get a stronger league).
You can't buy success in RL within a year or two it just doesn't happen (Wire took 6/7 years) yet in Noble you have a coach who is used to both improving results with sides he inherits and also building squads quickly to make big leaps from there.
Good to see a top British coach back in the top flight also!'"
Thanks for your comments.
When has Koukash " banged on" how hard done to we are every week?
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| Tim Smith to you with RMcG + cash going the other way.
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| Quote ="thawat"Tim Smith to you with RMcG + cash going the other way.
Also looks like Morley is nailed on 2yr deal.'"
Smith for McGoldrick is good business for both teams but sorry Morley for 2 years is wasteful unless part of it is being offset by making a community office or maybe start him doing his coaching badges.
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| Morley,the signing,would be a far bigger deal than just his playing ability now.
A Salford lad who wants to play for Salford,what better message?
Wouldn't want anyone else at that stage of his career but,for me,it would be exactly the right thing to do.
He would be inspirational to others around the place,particularly the kids.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Morley,the signing,would be a far bigger deal than just his playing ability now.
A Salford lad who wants to play for Salford,what better message?
Wouldn't want anyone else at that stage of his career but,for me,it would be exactly the right thing to do.
He would be inspirational to others around the place,particularly the kids.'"
That's an excellent summation. I'd be surprised if it was on a two year deal though, maybe the remainder of this season and next.
Tim smith for Ryan McGoldrick seems good business, I just don't see what's in it for Wakefield, unless he's ooc at the end of this season and they've seen an opportunity to make some cash. Smith's motivation must be the chance to work with noble again, but I hope he doesn't push Fages out of the side. Thinking long term we should use this season to develop him, and really hit the ground running next year, but where does that leave Foran/Gaskell, etc. It's been mentioned, on here, Foran should be moved to LF, but a bulked up Gaskell might be a better option.
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| Foran should be ditched hes not good enough, another waste of time signing by vievers
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| Morley is all talk, he hasn't really wanted to play for us, just talks the talk. I wouldn't waste money from the cap on him. Sign his on as an ambassador but not a player.
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