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| Well said Walskovski, could not have put it better myself, the club are treating us like fools.
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| and it came to pass that the wicked Parker was banished from the kingdom and prince Malcolm married Princess Captain's armband and the Willows crowd cheered a hearty roar for all was well in the Kingdom of the Willows and the Emporer John looked down on his creation and he was happy and they all lived happy ever after
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| Right enough, some dont like it some do, lets not get carried away with it, all them that dont like it take long strides through the turnstiles all them that do like it take long strides through the turnstiles and keep supporting this great club no matter what
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| Quote ="Bigpev"and it came to pass that the wicked Parker was banished from the kingdom and prince Malcolm married Princess Captain's armband and the Willows crowd cheered a hearty roar for all was well in the Kingdom of the Willows and the Emporer John looked down on his creation and he was happy and they all lived happy ever after
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Quality Pev.
Forgot to mention Parker, the treatment of him during that Harlequins game was ridiculous. Shoved into a job he probably didn't want, acted with nothing but dignity and gets treated like a leper by half The Shed. He didn't make Alker act up in Florida. Wouldn't blame him a jot if he walked out of this shambles of a club.
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| Quote ="Walshovski"If that 'on going investigation' nonsense was to hold any water he would have kept the captaincy until proven otherwise, same goes for the fine. And like the investigation would have taken this long. They know what happened, took the right decision and have now bottled it due to the gash start to the season. Alker has kept the issue alive via his mates on this message board and through constant articles in the press. Take about eloquence they must think some of us were born yesterday.'"
This is not the way the law works, if the police think you have comited an offence, then they can hold you untill you are charged or a big sorry we were wrong
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Quality Pev.
Forgot to mention Parker, the treatment of him during that Harlequins game was ridiculous. Shoved into a job he probably didn't want, acted with nothing but dignity and gets treated like a leper by half The Shed. He didn't make Alker act up in Florida. Wouldn't blame him a jot if he walked out of this shambles of a club.'"
As you say , please pms me and tell me what alker did in florida, not guilty ffs
And if parker didnt want the job he should have said so Dont blame me i didnt want it in the first place , great move
If alker has such power at the club then i for one would like to see him as coach, if he can get the players not to play, emagine what he could do if he wanted them too. TOP OF THE LEAGUE, But you wouldnt be happy with that would you, because it dont go with what you belive . rant over.
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| Quote ="tall red"As you say , please pms me and tell me what alker did in florida, not guilty ffs
And if parker didnt want the job he should have said so
Dont blame me i didnt want it in the first place , great move
If alker has such power at the club then i for one would like to see him as coach, if he can get the players not to play, emagine what he could do if he wanted them too. TOP OF THE LEAGUE, But you wouldnt be happy with that would you, because it dont go with what you belive . rant over.'"
What do I believe?
And as for your previous post it wasn't a criminal investigation it was an internal club dispute. We know you are on the side of Alker but you don't honestly believe all that stuff about 'on going investigations' and what not do you?
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| Quote ="Walshovski"What do I believe?
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Just Guinness! BELIEVE
Sod Alker and all the rest, all he is at the moment is captain of a sinking ship. I think Wilky should sign Fletcher Christian.
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| Quote ="The Black Cat"Just Guinness! BELIEVE
Sod Alker and all the rest, all he is at the moment is captain of a sinking ship. I think Wilky should sign Fletcher Christian.'"
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| Quote ="Walshovski"What do I believe?
And as for your previous post it wasn't a criminal investigation it was an internal club dispute. We know you are on the side of Alker but you don't honestly believe all that stuff about 'on going investigations' and what not do you?'"
Yes.
There was an investigation ( internally )
and he was found not guilty 15 days ago well a few weeks ago anyway, and always new he would get his arm band back. And if he didnt then he could have gone to tribunal, and sorted it out but didnt, the law, guilty until proven inocent now,
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| My opinion on this matter is hat I really do not care who did what or who said what in Florida or anywhere else for that matter. It is no business of mine or anyone else what went on unless you were actually involved in what happened. We have all been told one story or another from freds sister or joes mum etc but the truth of the matter is we dont really know what happened, these people will only tell you what they want you to hear. We can all think we know the truth but the truth is we dont. My views on tantrums and spitting dummies out still stands but I personally think there is a lot more to this than we know about.
The people who are saying Alker has thrown a tantrum and got his own way may well be correct I dont know but they also sound very much like spoilt children who because they havnt been given all the gory details of who said what and who did what to who now need to look for something else to complain about.
I have come to the conclusion after watching Salford for more than 40 years that our fans are only happy when they can have a good moan. If we won everything in sight they would be moaning because they had nothing to moan about.
At the end of the day I dont care who is or is not captain all I care about is my team and if that means the clu doing things I dont always agree with I will still get on with my job which is supporting my team no matter what and that is what the rest of true Salford fans will be doing.
Maybe we should try putting as much passion into supporting the team as certain people do in booing the team and keyboard moaning. Who knows you may start to like it.
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| Quote ="tall red"Yes.
There was an investigation ( internally )
and he was found not guilty 15 days ago well a few weeks ago anyway, and always new he would get his arm band back. And if he didnt then he could have gone to tribunal, and sorted it out but didnt, the law, guilty until proven inocent now,
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Bleeding hell! That was the point I was making. If it was innocent until proven guilty, he would never have been stripped of it in the first place.
Quite good to note this saint hood around Alker now, he was given some terrible stick last year at times, even booed by some when he was being brought off during the Wakefield cup tie.
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reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/ ... statement/
Quote After a recent internal incident came to light during the training camp in Jacksonville, a small number of Reds’ players have been found to have broken club rules and subsequently face internal disciplinary procedures.
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Quote After a recent internal incident came to light during the training camp in Jacksonville, a small number of Reds’ players have been found to have broken club rules and subsequently face internal disciplinary procedures.
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| YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY CAPTAINS AS YOU LIKE BUT ITS ONLY PAPERING OVER THE CRACKS TAKE FROM THAT WHAT YOU WANT
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| Quote ="Walshovski"reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/01/27/official-club-statement/
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Right get your point now, but they aint gonna keep him as captain while they investigate are they it aint how its done no more though is it, they have ,( the club ) done the wrong thing in the way they have handled the whole affair, and gave a few people the wrong impresion of what went on, so lets get on with what we do best and support our great club, SALFORRRRRRRRD. Ill get mi coat.
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| Quote ="redhazel227"My opinion on this matter is hat I really do not care who did what or who said what in Florida or anywhere else for that matter. It is no business of mine or anyone else what went on unless you were actually involved in what happened. We have all been told one story or another from freds sister or joes mum etc but the truth of the matter is we dont really know what happened, these people will only tell you what they want you to hear. We can all think we know the truth but the truth is we dont. My views on tantrums and spitting dummies out still stands but I personally think there is a lot more to this than we know about.
The people who are saying Alker has thrown a tantrum and got his own way may well be correct I dont know but they also sound very much like spoilt children who because they havnt been given all the gory details of who said what and who did what to who now need to look for something else to complain about.
I have come to the conclusion after watching Salford for more than 40 years that our fans are only happy when they can have a good moan. If we won everything in sight they would be moaning because they had nothing to moan about.
At the end of the day I dont care who is or is not captain all I care about is my team and if that means the clu doing things I dont always agree with I will still get on with my job which is supporting my team no matter what and that is what the rest of true Salford fans will be doing.
Maybe we should try putting as much passion into supporting the team as certain people do in booing the team and keyboard moaning. Who knows you may start to like it.'"
Fantastic post that, would have taken me about a week to type all that though
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| Quote ="Walshovski"reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/01/27/official-club-statement/
The club has to act to instill a high level of professionalism in all players if it is to continue to progress.
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| Seems to me that Player Power has won and that is very, very sad. We shall have to see now whether there is unity and I will be watching 4 players in particular to see how they react to the new arrangement.
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| Tall Red I think we all know where your feelings lie on the subject but are you seriously suggesting the club took action first, stripped him of the captaincy then held an investigation? Bit like the police giving you a jail sentence then looking into the matter.
I'm sorry but this has made the Salford club look feeble. The club did their investigation, took action and should have stood by their decision.
Player power should not be the over riding power.
If there was any doubt about the conduct it should have remained behind closed doors, gossip mongers such as Barker should have been told to with hold information until such time as the club were ready to discuss the matter. This should not have been conducted in the public arena.
Only Parker has come out of this with his head held high.
Alker has ruined and tainted his legacy for me.
This season just get worse.
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| Quote ="redhazel227"My opinion on this matter is hat I really do not care who did what or who said what in Florida or anywhere else for that matter. It is no business of mine or anyone else what went on unless you were actually involved in what happened. We have all been told one story or another from freds sister or joes mum etc but the truth of the matter is we dont really know what happened, these people will only tell you what they want you to hear. We can all think we know the truth but the truth is we dont. My views on tantrums and spitting dummies out still stands but I personally think there is a lot more to this than we know about.
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I have come to the conclusion after watching Salford for more than 40 years that our fans are only happy when they can have a good moan. If we won everything in sight they would be moaning because they had nothing to moan about.
At the end of the day I dont care who is or is not captain all I care about is my team and if that means the clu doing things I dont always agree with I will still get on with my job which is supporting my team no matter what and that is what the rest of true Salford fans will be doing.
Maybe we should try putting as much passion into supporting the team as certain people do in booing the team and keyboard moaning. Who knows you may start to like it.'"
WELL SAID JANICE
As you have eluded to , different players will have told individuals THEIR side of the story (as we all do, no matter if we are right or wrong), Maybe we should be putting a lid on this now & lets have some decent rugby played, win or lose I will be happy if they play together as the team.
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| they are hoping this will sort us out now as i think they damwell no there is a split in the camp over this end of the day they need to chop the dead wood out causing the problem if it does not sort it self out now.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"sack Coley'"
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| Quote ="Bigpev"sack Coley'"
BUT FAIR
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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"WELL SAID JANICE
As you have eluded to , different players will have told individuals THEIR side of the story (as we all do, no matter if we are right or wrong), Maybe we should be putting a lid on this now & lets have some decent rugby played, win or lose I will be happy if they play together as the team.'"
Im with you shirl, gonna say no more from now on, only so you dont give me a slap when you see me next, right or wrong, whats done is done, SALFORRRRRRRRD.
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