Thats democracy for you im afraid. How ironic that in the 65th anniversary year of the Normandy landings in which brave, selfless and heroic men died to keep the freedom we now have some folk see fit to elect BNP representatives..shame on you all.

Couldn't agree more. Sad day for Britain and especially shaming that the NW is involved

Truly terrible. Ashamed of those who voted for hateful party.

As posted on the sin bin...

Their arguement is that they will 'bring it down from the inside'

which is a load of rubbish. As they have already had MEP's and it hasnt happened yet. Just a way for them to look busy while raking in loads of cash!

Hugely curious election results for those who like stats...the Tory vote didnt really increase much, the labour vote could have been worse I think, UKIP was only up by about 1 pp while the BNP share wasn't markedly up (the actual number who voted BNP in the NW was lower than last time!) while the lib-dems saw a marginal drop. The big winners were the Greens!

BNP targetted the Northwest (and why Nick Griffin stood here) because the % they would need to get a seat is lower here than in other regions beacsue we have the largest population of any region (excluding London).

BNP got 8.0% of the vote in the NW and it got them a seat -
they actually got higher shares of the vote in the North East (8.9%), the West Mids (8.6%), the East Mids (8.7%), and Yorkshire and Humber (9.8%). Of course the figure in Y&H got them a seat there too.

the real question is who would the non-voters have voted for given that turn-out was down? did the traditional labour vote just not turn out or was there a real shift? Gives every party stratgic nightmares as a replication of the European vote in a general election would not have given the Tories a majority in parliament! expect them to lurch to being more anti-EU to ensure they snare the UKIP vote at general election time...while Labour must be praying that UKIP actively contest marginal seats next year to split the Tory vote!

Here, here !!!!!

In terms of number of votes it was an unusual election. Labour down 1.3million votes, Tories down 200,000 votes, LibDems down 350,000 votes. Which suggests that there is still no real appetite for Cameron and his slick pr men.

BNP vote only went up 80,000 which is tiny really, especially given the amount of coverage they had beforehand and the claims they make about popularity. Others like socialist labour and no2eu would have picked up some old labour voters.

We're actually looking at about 1million Labour voters who simply didn't turn out. If they can convince them to do so at a general election and things could be very different.

Isn't that what they died for though? Our freedom? Freedom to choose who we want to vote for in a democratic election?

Before anyone says anything i didn't vote BNP!

Yep. Otherwise we would be living in a greater Germania — a fascist state.

However, let’s not kid ourselves in thinking that any of the folks who fought in or lived through WWII wouldn’t vote for an anti-EU party. Naturally, I suppose, some of them will be nationalist and/or xenophobic, and therefore would be more likely to vote for UKIP or the BNP.

They didn't die for people to have the 'freedom' to kick out of the country anyone who isn't white, though.

Hence my use of "Ironic". Yes people fought for the freedom to vote for whoever they see fit to. Thats perfectly correct and i wouldent want it any other way. Its just dissapointing that people have seen fit to vote for a party,all be it a legitimate one, that espouses such extreme views.

It's even more disappointing that such a large proportion of people didn't vote, which is what allowed the extremist party to win a high enough percentage of the votes cast to gain two seats.

Correct. The apathy of the majority of the population is a real concern. The threat of a fascist party gaining one seat should be enough to encourage more people to vote. Unfortunately nearly seven in ten of the adult population of the north west couldnt care less

I agree on this totally and no I also did not vote for them.
What people appear to be missing the point on here is that there are enough people in this country who are so fed up with whats going on that they would vote for a extremist party.

Nobody said they did. However anybody who isn't entitled to be in this country by law should not be whether they are white, brown, black, yellow, red, pink or blue and thats where your problem starts.

Surely people have the right to vote for who they like, I have heard various comments in the media saying that the party should be banned which then is exacting the type of restriction of free speach the people making the statements advocate.

My opinion is the BNP should be encouraged then we can see openly what the people who support that kind of tripe are up to and not have them go underground and untraceable.

The thing is the votes for extremist parties hasn't really changed dramatically, people are that fed up they just aren't voting

What's that got to do with the BNP? The BNP will kick out anyone who is entitled to be in this country purely because they're not white. That's the problem.

As I've said elsewhere, I can't see any evidence that we're flooded with illegal immigrants. Official census statistics show that those of 'ethnic minority' backgrounds here legally are far, far outnumbered by white British people. So what's the problem, exactly?

If people are so fed up with what's going on in this country that they vote for an openly racist party, then those people have some serious issues.

Maybe you walk around with your eyes shut then, the last census was years ago, can't remember exactly but I reckon I filled it in at least 7 years ago, so talk to me about that again next time in 4 years? (but dont forget to use ignorance in the 'official statisics' of how many filled it out) and how many illegals weren't accounted for? Like anyone using those 'official statistics' prefer to do now.

You can start on my row on Weaste Lane if you want to judge a majority share to whites and blacks then maybe move along to Leicester as an obvious second choice. However it's pretty obvious there is a total number of a majority of whites in the country, only an idiot couldnt work that out but take your head out of the sand. I could load you with a barrage of problems but I wouldnt want to add to an insignificant public outcry.



Why?

FWIW I didn't vote BNP but if I chose to I couldn't give a toss what anyone else thought, it would be my opinion and my opinion alone. I would imagine theres not a chance in my life time that they'll ever get elected, although as some forum members know who I still owe a bet for, I did state that there would never be a black president of the United States of America in my lifetime so you never know

GT - You are clear about your opinions re the BNP but let me throw this at you. Mate of mine lives in Littleborough.

His Mother in Law (91 years old) has just sold her terraced home for £80k. She had no savings. She is now in a Residential Home and it costs £450 per week. She receives no State help now as she has more than £22k and her £80k is being reduced swiftly.

Eight doors away from my mate is a Pakistani Family of 8. They have invited the Grandfather - who cannot speak English - to come over and live in the same Nursing home as my mates Mother In Law. The £450 per week for this chap is paid for by you, me and every other worker in the UK.

My point to you is ............. Do you feel that is fair and right?

I didnt vote BNP as I registered my token apathy vote with the UKIP.

However maybe you will see why so many people in Industrial towns like Oldham, Rochdale, Leeds, Burnley, Leicester etc voted BNP when they encounter daily situations like my mate.

Fair point, but how many white people take the p*ss out of the social or disabilty or whatever on so many estates up and down the country? It's nothing to do with race, it's to do with the systems be it for white, black, asian or whoever

The stats were taken from 2007. Next.



I've been down Weaste Lane plenty of times. Never seen that many blacks/Asians down there to feel there's any kind of problem. Same in Leicester. There are areas in most towns, though, that are predominantely black/Asian. There's also predominantely white areas. What's your point? What exactly am I meant to be taking my head out of the sand? All these nasty ragheads that are apparently taking our homes, jobs and money? Give over.



Because anyone who votes for and supports an openly racist party who are no different to Hitler's National Socialist Party is a f*cking racist idiot. And I make no apologies for saying that, either.



If they ever got elected it'll be a sad, sad day. Unfortunatley they seem to be relying on fear and ignorance, which seems to be rife amongst many at the moment. There are many problems in this country at the moment - shutting down immigration completely and kicking out everyone who isn't white would not solve those problems.



That situation is a bit of a p*ss take if true, however I don't think it'll be quite as clear cut as your friend is making out. However, it's no different to white families taking the mickey when it comes to benefits, housing and so on - many of whom make no effort to get a job and contribute to our society when many Pakistani families have worked hard to get good jobs and pay more back into the system than I do. A p*ss taker is a p*ss taker, regardless of race.



A party that talks utter rubbish and has no real plan to aide the country's current problems? Aye, OK. They're as bad as the main stream parties you've protested against. "We want the UK out of the EU but we're willing to become MEPs and claim all the money and cushy numbers that come with it... Erm, we'll get around to pulling out of the EU and taking away these opportunities for ourselves eventually though, we promise!



No, I don't see it. I only see why racist people would vote BNP. I live in Preston, I see places in this town where there's integration. There's a lovely Asian family live across the road from me, in fact. You'd do anything to help them and they'd do anything to help you. I'd rather have them there than the white family down the road who act up all the time, but never mind.

And yes, I do see parts of town that are completely Asian. However there's plenty of parts of this town that are completely white. And guess what? I feel a lot safer walking around the Asian estates than I do the white ones. But that doesn't fit in with the fear propaganda machine people like to crank up, so it's conveniently ignored. Again, this country has many problems. It's more down to middle/upper class white politicians taking the p*ss rather than immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Well I agree with that - I have no objections at all with people of any colour who work hard and pay their taxes - none at all. What I cannot condone are those (of any colour) who milk the state having put nowt in during their lifetime. I do discriminate though on one thing - and that is behaviour.

I refer my ler'ned colleagues to a place called Liverpool for evidence of all of the above.