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| To all the distraught cas fans have a look at two of the four halfbacks at Wembley on Saturday and you will see two were Salfords halfbacks last year. We lost them to club's offering them more and had to accept it and move on. like one of the sports few sponsors says man up.
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| I’m loving the bitterness and jealously from Cas fans. I would usually be sympathetic towards a club who are losing their best player to another with more financial muscle, as it’s happened to us more than enough (Nathan McAvoy, Scott Naylor, Terry O’Connor, Andy Coley, Luke Robinson, Jordan Turner, Richie Myler, Stefan Ratchford, Matty Smith, Joel Moon, Daniel Holdsworth – to name just a few) but I wish nothing but the worst for these lot. They have shown zero class since the whole Chase to Salford deal was leaked months ago.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I’m loving the bitterness and jealously from Cas fans. I would usually be sympathetic towards a club who are losing their best player to another with more financial muscle, as it’s happened to us more than enough (Nathan McAvoy, Scott Naylor, Terry O’Connor, Andy Coley, Luke Robinson, Jordan Turner, Richie Myler, Stefan Ratchford, Matty Smith, Joel Moon, Daniel Holdsworth – to name just a few) but I wish nothing but the worst for these lot. They have shown zero class since the whole Chase to Salford deal was leaked months ago.'"
spot on mate ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| Don't tar everyone with the same brush though! IF Chase moves to Salford it could allow Cas to build a larger and stronger squad than we have now. After all, we have hardly been finishing in the play-offs with Chase playing!
However, it seems that the deal to Salford is not (as many claim) already agreed. Chase has requested a transfer today - hardly the actions of a player who has a move agreed. Financially for us a move to Salford would be best, but there are NRL teams interested who Chase would prefer to join.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Don't tar everyone with the same brush though! IF Chase moves to Salford it could allow Cas to build a larger and stronger squad than we have now. After all, we have hardly been finishing in the play-offs with Chase playing!
However, it seems that the deal to Salford is not (as many claim) already agreed. [uChase has requested a transfer today - hardly the actions of a player who has a move agreed.[/u Financially for us a move to Salford would be best, but there are NRL teams interested who Chase would prefer to join.'"
its called procedure mate
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| I think it would be churlish to gloat over any players we sign form rival clubs. We should always remember how close we actually were to going out of business to the extent of us not even having a shirt made for the forthcoming season. Whilst I am elated at the reality of seeing top class players plying their trade at SCR stadium, we should have respect and a degree of sympathy for other clubs that are being subjected to the bleak times we went through - no matter how bitter they become.
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| Quote ="roger daly"Don't you think Castleford fans are a very strange INbreed'"
Edited for accuracy
I do find the attitude a little odd, if the numbers you here privately are correct then Castleford have done very well out of this and it will go some way to allowing them to significantly strengthen rather than have so much money tied up in one player. If they do get Sneyd for a season too then they have got a good play maker who will do an excellent job and learn from Powel/Orr.
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| Quote ="david caesar"its called procedure mate'"
Submitting a transfer request is not a procedure AFTER a transfer has been agreed!
Chase no doubt knows where he wants to go, but the deal has yet to be agreed with Castleford for a transfer. The club are not keen to sell to Salford (althohg I think that's a bit daft if you are offering decent money) and would rather he move to the NRL.
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| Visa issues mean that chase will not be playing for salford next season but returning to australia. ![DEPRESSED icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a054.gif)
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| Success in Superleague is basically about who’s got the biggest financial clout. You have the traditionally sucessful and self sufficient clubs like Wigan, Leeds and Saints and then it’s all about who’s got the wealthiest and most generous owner/directors. Coaching, administration and youth systems are secondary.
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| As I read it, Castleford announced today that Rangi Chase submitted a transfer request. Nowhere does it say when that request was submitted. It could have been submitted weeks ago.
I think any deal done for Rangi Chase in this country would have to be agreed subject to a Visa being granted.
Perhaps that is why this saga has gone on for too long.
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| Quote ="blinkstudios"Visa issues mean that chase will not be playing for salford next season but returning to australia.
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The visa issue was sorted several weeks ago so he's free to join Salford or Saints.
Afaik the deal between Chase & Salford is already done, although this transfer request is a curve ball.
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| I think this is being stage managed to keep the Cas public onside with the club.
My guess is that the deal has been done and he will not play against Salford
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"I think this is being stage managed to keep the Cas public onside with the club.
My guess is that the deal has been done and he will not play against Salford'"
There is no reason at all why Chase shouldn't play against Salford.
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| Already a done deal isnt it???
Good luck to him and salford next year and we have to move on
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"There is no reason at all why Chase shouldn't play against Salford.'"
we will all find out soon enough......
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Why?'"
Because they're a bunch of bitter c**ts.
Quote ="Dettoriman"He's still Cas for those 80 minutes. Just means the club and team will be out to show him what a shocking side he is joining. And we'll probably run in a massive score(Albeit still concede our customary 30pts)
I've no hard feelings to him. Your paying him silly money. He's an absolute genius. And I'll still enjoy watching him next year
Albeit. I'd love to see the Rfl annoy KouTwat for breaking the salary cap and deduct all your points ha'"
There's a good example for you.
There's certainly something funny in the Castleford water supply.
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| Quote ="Wayward Fan"The visa issue was sorted several weeks ago so he's free to join Salford or Saints. '"
The Visa issue has been covered in detail. I'm not going to go into the legalities of it again as people just believe whatever they want to anyway, regardless of what they actually know!
One major obstacle to his Visa has been removed - he was serving a sentence up to 10th August 2013. This excluded him from a Visa or Citizenship automatically.
However, a Visa/citizenship will still be difficult. No Visa or citizenship has ever been granted to anyone who has been convicted of a violent offence before their conviction is 'spent' (the time before a conviction is 'spent' is double the sentence) - so Chase's conviction will not be 'spent' until 10th August 2015. If he gets a Visa or Citizenship, he is setting a legal precedent in doing so. It will open a floodgate of appeals from others who are refused a Visa on this basis.
It's not impossible but I would be surprised if he was granted a new Visa or Citizenship.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"
There is no reason at all why Chase shouldn't play against Salford.'"
There is: Cas fans tend to get mard heads on when we have 14 players on the field.
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| Have we got any players who are retiring who might be playing??
Having a whip round to go looking for Tansey might be fun, dirty cheating b'stard still deserves battering for his head high tackle earlier this year.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Have we got any players who are retiring who might be playing??
Having a whip round to go looking for Tansey might be fun, dirty cheating b'stard still deserves battering for his head high tackle earlier this year.'"
Nice. After critisism of Castleford fans on this very thread, along comes someone who proves that all clubs have a minority of idiot supporters.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Have we got any players who are retiring who might be playing??
Having a whip round to go looking for Tansey might be fun, dirty cheating b'stard still deserves battering for his head high tackle earlier this year.'"
Because he got a massive fine and suspension for it.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Nice. After critisism of Castleford fans on this very thread, along comes someone who proves that all clubs have a minority of idiot supporters.'"
Twas a joke, Tansey though did intentionally attack a Salford players head.
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| Should knock a few quid off the transfer fee now he's put in a transfer request. Good work all round.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"The Visa issue has been covered in detail. I'm not going to go into the legalities of it again as people just believe whatever they want to anyway, regardless of what they actually know!
One major obstacle to his Visa has been removed - he was serving a sentence up to 10th August 2013. This excluded him from a Visa or Citizenship automatically.
However, a Visa/citizenship will still be difficult. No Visa or citizenship has ever been granted to anyone who has been convicted of a violent offence before their conviction is 'spent' (the time before a conviction is 'spent' is double the sentence) - so Chase's conviction will not be 'spent' until 10th August 2015. If he gets a Visa or Citizenship, he is setting a legal precedent in doing so. It will open a floodgate of appeals from others who are refused a Visa on this basis.
It's not impossible but I would be surprised if he was granted a new Visa or Citizenship.'"
I bow to your superior knowledge on the legalities. I don't know or understand the ins and outs but I do know that the visa situation was ironed out between the RFL and UKBA several weeks back, at which point Saints were still in the mix for his signature.
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