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| Quote ="murphyboy389"being the grand old age of 22 i can remember about 10 years ago when kids got into the willows for free, aslong as they were with 1 paying adult.
could this be brought back as a means of getting crowd numbers back up? and maybe bringing more money? in turn better wage deals for new or current players?
or am i just chatting rubbish?'"
Short term something on these lines has to done, certainly before we actually move into the new stadium.
In the fifties when I attended school in Brindle Heath each school used to receive an allocation of tickets from the club and 60 years later I am still watching so yes it can be used as a long term aim as well.
Every fan should try and introduce another person to attend matches, yes even though we aren't doing too well at present, this coupled with the new ground coming on stream will give the increase in attendances that the club needs.
The club needs to rethink its marketing policy now to take advantage of the new ground and the publicity that it will bring and I understand that they are exploring a sales drive for when construction begins and hopefully this will include enticing new fans as well as the corporate side of the business.
It is well known that if we could attract 2000 extra fans per match over a season then up to another £200k would be available for new players and this could enable us to recruit two/three top class people and if we could get an extra 4000 through the gates that equates to £400k and we could get at least four world class players.
A really simple way of improving things would be for everyone to become a little more positive about things instead of slagging the club off.
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| Quote ="lukicj"free tickets for kids, that reminds me of the failed golden angel scheme. Yeah it boosts the crowd numbers but doesn't give the club more money.'"
Wrong Wrong Wrong.
How an earth could the club lose money over it? It gets people through the gates and once they're throught the gates they're more than likely going to spend money which the club wouldn't have been getting if they wern't there. If the people from the golden angel scheme wern't there the places would still be empty and still bringing no money into the club IMO it was the best scheme the club has ever run.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Wrong Wrong Wrong.
How an earth could the club lose money over it? It gets people through the gates and once they're throught the gates they're more than likely going to spend money which the club wouldn't have been getting if they wern't there. If the people from the golden angel scheme wern't there the places would still be empty and still bringing no money into the club IMO it was the best scheme the club has ever run.'"
Not to often we agree but on this occasion this mirrors my sentiments, even if the scheme brings in an extra 500 people per game and they each spend an extra £10 per person (£65000 per season so you see it mounts up) then the club is getting a whole new revenue stream that it wouldnt have had before.
For me the club should be giving 1000+ free kids tickets per game with the proviso that the adults who accompany the kids pay a reduced rate of £10 per head, as a result not only do we make money from ticket sales, bar/food sales but also if the right product is served to them on the pitch we stand a pretty good chance of finding new fans.
We can only stand to gain from this kind of iniciative.
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| I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with both Ave it! and Michigan Red. I'm going to lie down in a darkened room...
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| It's a balancing act - what you don't want to happen is that those who woud have paid full price start to pick up cheap or free tickets - unless you can get enough extra in on the disounted tickets to outweigh the loss of full price ones. Generally these things need to be time limited or just for specific games, but I do agree get more folk through the door and [isome[/i will come again
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| Quote ="GT"I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with both Ave it! and Michigan Red. I'm going to lie down in a darkened room...'"
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It's pretty much common sense reasoning though, bring in new faces and try to get them interested to the point where when there is no buckshe tickets for them they stump up the cash to watch, at that point the investment in the future comes to fruition.
Now much go check that GT has seen the error of his ways and now dislikes wendyball as I can't be in agreement with a footballist
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Now much go check that GT has seen the error of his ways and now dislikes wendyball as I can't be in agreement with a footballist
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Sorry pal, the footballing allegiances are still there.
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| Quote ="GT"I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with both Ave it! and Michigan Red. I'm going to lie down in a darkened room...'"
Next your'll be agreeing with The Optimist
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| Quote ="GT"Sorry pal, the footballing allegiances are still there.
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That must explain the odd way you walk and the fact that you bring your boyfriend to the Willows with you
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"It's a balancing act - what you don't want to happen is that those who woud have paid full price start to pick up cheap or free tickets - unless you can get enough extra in on the disounted tickets to outweigh the loss of full price ones. Generally these things need to be time limited or just for specific games, but I do agree get more folk through the door and [isome[/i will come again'"
Just hand out free tickets for the indivual games concerned, if it is organised (I know i'm asking a lot of the club by current standards) they can have them printed and go out and about to schools and hand them out, what better than for the players to split into teams of 3 or 4 and go see the kids themselves, hell if we had a decent mascot they could accompany them.
I know for a fact that many kids confronted with 4 rugby players and a mascot chatting and throwing a ball about with them for an hour or so and then being given free tickets would be home as quick as a shot pestering to be taken.
=#FF0000Yet again it comes back to why are we the fans coming up with these ideas and the fact that the mascot is an utter abortion that is neither use nor sodding ornament.
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| If the golden angel scheme worked and made the club money and gained loads more fans they would have continued to run it. Therefore it didn't work!
They club needs better advertising! posters, flyers, radio campaigns etc. On match days there isn't a single poster telling passers by that there is a match on.
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| Quote ="lukicj"icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: If the golden angel scheme worked and made the club money and gained loads more fans they would have continued to run it. Therefore it didn't work!
They club needs better advertising! posters, flyers, radio campaigns etc. On match days there isn't a single poster telling passers by that there is a match on.'"
No one said it gained them loads of money. I don't get why they stopped it because it DID work no doubt about it. It just seems that as soon as trish left the whole marketing/sponsorship/matchday experience left as well.
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| If i recall rightly the sponsers paid for the free tickets to the games so the club did make money, however with the current dross on the pitch no decent pre match entertainment etc etc why would any free ticket holders want to come back when the current fan base are only turning up out of habit. I actually brought two young new faces to the celtic game the only bit they enjoyed was the hotdog.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"It just seems that as soon as trish left the whole marketing/sponsorship/matchday experience left as well.'"
i agree 100% with that, who's in charge of that side of it now?
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| Bring back Trish?????
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| Not contradicting anyone here but how exactly did the Golden Angel scheme work? I was under the impression that it was a big flop.
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"Not contradicting anyone here but how exactly did the Golden Angel scheme work? I was under the impression that it was a big flop.'"
Fans through the gate, Getting local kids into the willows, getting interested in rugby league, 6000 against Swinton, gave us a good average attendace at the end of the season. So i don't really see it as a "big flop". And as I've already pointed out once people are in the ground they're going to spend money arn't they? So the club couldn't really lose IMO.
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| Quote ="lukicj"icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: If the golden angel scheme worked and made the club money and gained loads more fans they would have continued to run it. Therefore it didn't work!
They club needs better advertising! posters, flyers, radio campaigns etc. On match days there isn't a single poster telling passers by that there is a match on.'"
But we've had posters in the past and, by your reckoning, if they'd worked we would've had bigger crowds.
Therefore, by your reckoning again, they didn't work either ... and yet you want us to waste money on them???
(even though Golden Angel was at virtually no cost to the club?!?)
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| you are right, they didnt work, you need more that one thing at a time, and you need to run campaigns for a long time or they have little effect.
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| Quote ="lukicj"you are right, they didnt work, you need more that one thing at a time, and you need to run campaigns for a long time or they have little effect.'"
... except for the Golden Angel, apparently??
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| Christ this board is negative
Can't you be grateful the stadium is off and running? That's obviously where the clubs attention is at the moment.
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| Quote ="SeniorsLoveChild"Christ this board is negative
Can't you be grateful the stadium is off and running? That's obviously where the clubs attention is at the moment.'"
Well it's certainly not anything else, is it? We're all grateful the stadium is off and running, but that doesn't excuse other areas being run shoddily.
Quote ="Red Preacher"Not contradicting anyone here but how exactly did the Golden Angel scheme work? I was under the impression that it was a big flop.'"
Quote ="lukicj"icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: If the golden angel scheme worked and made the club money and gained loads more fans they would have continued to run it. Therefore it didn't work!
They club needs better advertising! posters, flyers, radio campaigns etc. On match days there isn't a single poster telling passers by that there is a match on.'"
Nothing to do, as pointed out, with Trish leaving and the marketing department suddenly vanishing into thin air?
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| Even when this was done it did not boost crowds by that much its not a bad idea but you still need to sell the product on the pitch and at the moment the team are not selling them selfs. we are to light weight and cant see giving free tickets is going to benifit the club financially right now. its a thought for the future when we get a backer with money which is at the moment no where to be seen. I just wish peel holdings would concider buying the club as they seem to manage things well and would run the club with money to support us but cant see that happening as we never seem to get away from being at the bottom of the league.
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| what happened to trish anyway? did she get fired off? Plus i thought the guy who we brought in was some top marketing guy from the rfl?
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