some great offloads from your lads today, really had us on the backfoot, with only our great scrambling defence keeping you out! Think we definately have one of the best defences in teh league at the moment so against a weaker side, you could rip them apart (ala celtic). Plenty of positives

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we was in control in the first half and like you said was in salfords faces, second half I personally thought that there was more time in the tackle which slowed us up, but I can live with that as long asit goes both ways to keep the game flowing.

Belle Vue can be a quite place and I expected more of a crowd today, you can make of it what you think but clubs find it very hard to play there, soulless as one of you have said

well we both have to agree that the sooner we get the new stadiums the better, thanks for all that came today and for the impeccable minutes silence, looking forward to our return to the willows and good luck with the rest of the season

Mark Henry looks suspiciously like a centre to me ...

Cashmere reminds me of Cartwright a lot.

Smith had a bad day at the office but was made to look stupid by Sibbit on several occasions.

Parker impressed in the second half with leadership and passion.

Worst of all, the burger stall had no peas (the only thing worth visiting Wakefield for) and charged £3 for chips and curry sauce!

Plus points Stapo,Myler,Big Phil,Parker,the horse .
Minuses Wilshere,Talau,Smith,Henry,Sibbit
I am still to be convinced by Cashmere I hate to say it but he is starting to look a lot like Korkidas to me (some may take that as a positive but I definitely dont)
The lack of creativity when we had 6 repeats sets was worrying.
Still it is only our first game against real SL oppostion and there was a lot to positive about in the second half.
The less said about the first half the better

NOW THAT IS A BAD MATCH! these are the teams we should be beating whats is going on! We need to play the ball alot deeper than what we are doing! And stop but fance snap and goes in let just go back to basic and then work on these tricks!

You need to stop trying to slow other teams down to Div 1 speed then it was a joke today I couldn't believe how Smith allowed you to mess in the ruck.

Think Mr McRae will shake things up a bit. Wilshere to Full Back, Rachford maybe in for the possibly injured Smith for starters. Turner & White should also be in contention as Henry & Smith v poor today. I felt Nash was sound today and hopefully Sidlow knocking on the door again.

We are lining out far too flat. Nobody running on the ball at pace and we need to be much deeper. We are in a different League now and our very predictable 5 drives and a kick need to be changed - awful to watch.

Wakefield`s try from the face ball was a cracker and down to good coaching and practice and shows what could be done near to the line without the boring up and under seen on 90% of plays.

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We are far better than you

If you had beat us today I would have been shocked. Don't think you ever looked like winning tbh.

But hope your season goes well.

Thought first half we were looking at forty to fifty even with our depleted side, you certainly looked a few yards off the pace. I think a better team than us would have took you to the cleaners.

Second half credit to the coach and players, especially your 6 and 7 who ran the show. I hope you can keep hold of Myler, but being a realist and in a similar boat to us it wont be long before a so called bigger club comes in or he wants to win trophies and or represent his country( maybe he can with Salford).

Thought number 8 had a excellent game today must go to your number 8 (forgive my ignorance but did not catch his name) saved two potential tries running back to tackle two of our backs in the second half.

Without trying to sound condescending if you play like the second half you wont be far away.

We never play well at Wakefield, i dont know if its the ground or what? but we always seem to fall apart there? its only early days lets not get to worked up.

WTF are you talking about?!

Why in God's name should we be expecting to beat a Wakefield side that were a division above us last year, particularly at their place?!?

In future, 'remove head from ar[size=9.[/sizese before posting' may be a useful rule to consider?

Luelui for you was excellent today we are crying out for a player like that at Wakefield. 1st half you guys were very poor but the 2nd half you knocked it around well.

How can a ground that has been there over a century be described as soul less? Belle Vue is many things but it ain't soul less! Bloody hell!

For me the truest write-up on the thread, if Rooney & Brough had have been playing we'd have been spanked out of sight by half time. We were awful, as it was it was down to Drew to run rings around us (as usual) & let no-one be fooled by the 2nd half "comeback" against a side who knew that the win was safely in the locker, too many poor peformances today & a full strength Wakefield side would have embarrased us today.

Thought you looked good when you had Paul, Alker and Myler on the pitch at the same time. There was some great play from these guys. I could not understand why your coach did not keep them all on for longer, unless there was an injury Paul should have stayed on.

These three working together will cause problems for any side.

Cannot underestimate how improtant the kicking game is particularly in the 1st 20 mins - ours was poor. Our forwards never got on the front foot, they only ever got the ball on our own line, and barely made the half way.

Second half was better, we played a certain style of panic football when we thought there was time to get back in the game, but even this did not come off.

Overall the game was lost in the 1st half. No lack of effort, beaten by a better team on the day, poor kicking game - take your pick.

Could have been 40, so well done for keeping the points difference down!
Strange atmosphere in the ground, quietest 6k i've ever heard. Wakefield were all over us and the fans were silent. Salford fans were also quiet, but we had very little to shout about!

If our second half team had turned up at 3:30 we might have given Wakefield a game, but in the event the game was well and truly lost at half time. For the first forty minutes we played one man rugby, failed to make ground, gave Wakefield ten yards to play football in every time they got the ball and just looked completely out of our depth. We made Wakefield look so much in control it was embarrassing. We gave away silly penalties and didn't threaten their line at all.

In the second half we competed. We looked interested; we played with a certain amount of desire; we played some expansive rugby and gained good field positions - though our defence against their kicking game didn't improve much!!

What I can't understand is why we can be so very different in two halves of rugby. Any ideas? We do need to play for eighty minutes (at our second half standard!) if we are to achieve anything though.

can some one please tell me why when we are kicking from a restart that we kick to the same player

Well said - there is a complete lack of variety on what we do.

A few things I noticed today:

1) We can't play any worse this season than we did in fhe first today, hopefully.

2) On the wings Johnny Wilshire had the worst game I've seen him have in a Salford shirt and Mark Henry didn't play to anything like same standard he did against Celtic.

3) The defence definitely needs to drift quicker at this level.

4) We need to get better organised in attack, not alot the halfbacks can do when everyone else is running bad lines. We moved it across the park to slow and had no dummy runners to fix their defence.

5) Cashmere looked to be standing flat at times today, noticed this against Celtic also. Stapo looked far more impressive in his second spell.

Hopefully these are just early season teething problems and the team will get better as they continue to gel and get used to the pace of superleague.

My own take on yesterday FWIW.
Wakey are a decent side and are constantly underestimated. With a full team out we could have been forty down by half time. As it was, we put in a far better second half performance but one that was never going to win against a team with more gears to use if they needed to. Wakey are a better team than us and we need to aspire to playing consistently at such a level before we even mention the top sides. I think this was a good reintroduction to SL after last week. It's a game over 80 minutes not 40. We could (and frequently did) get away with it last year but we won't this year. Games will be all but concluded by half time if we play in such a disinterested manner. I was a bit saddened that the Forwards didn't boss the game a little more which is a concern. Positives? Littler, Myler, Alker. Phil seemed to keep going.
We need to rethink a bit because Cas will be exactly the same if we approach it in the same half interested manner.

Spot on this. Playing half a game in no use. Basics were missing in the first 40 - compounded by a woeful kicking game. Second half showed what we can do - if we played like this in both halves we would have given them a game at least. I'm hoping that lessons will be learnt because I still think if we play like we did in the 1st half v Celtic & second half yesterday, we could beat Cas on Saturday. It was encouraging to hear McRae call it like it was about the 1st half... what was less encouraging was the woeful kicking, and the performance of Mark Henry on the wing, beaten one on one and round the outside. Don't like to single anyone out, but let's hope he responds in the right way because this performance was way below standard.

Saturday - we get the basics right, avoid pens & mistakes and kick well on the 5th, and we will have a real chance at it. Come on Solly!

We cannot give away 12 (not sure exact figure) penalties in a half and expect anything less!

Wakefield didn't have to get out of there own half often in the first half!

Also didn't think swain had a great game, maybe bring turner in against cas?

wasn't going to go castleford but the second half looked like the salford against celtic and has brought a bit of hope back to me!!

lets all get down to cas, and get behind them. this potentially a good team! we just need to get adapted to super league.

come on the reds!

also, how many reds turned up yesterday? very hard to tell, thought we took about 1000 ish?