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Quote ="RED LEAGUE" I'll tell you why because that gold mine/variety centre kept the pound signs in his eyes! Keep the rugby club surviving on a shoe string budget while he made millions for his family, shows
Where his priorities really lie'"
Tell you what, as you're suggesting the Variety club made millions of profits, why not provide some evidence for that? You can get hold of the accounts for the entire 19 years of trading here - wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/9515f ... order?ft=1
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Quote ="RED LEAGUE" I'll tell you why because that gold mine/variety centre kept the pound signs in his eyes! Keep the rugby club surviving on a shoe string budget while he made millions for his family, shows
Where his priorities really lie'"
Tell you what, as you're suggesting the Variety club made millions of profits, why not provide some evidence for that? You can get hold of the accounts for the entire 19 years of trading here - wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/9515f ... order?ft=1
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"He wasn't having me on, he was telling me how the club pays bad wages, just shows a few years of paying big wages and we need council loans and player sales to carry on, if wilkinson hasn't got the money why did he stay in control all them years? I'll tell you why because that gold mine/variety centre kept the pound signs in his eyes! Keep the rugby club surviving on a shoe string budget while he made millions for his family, shows
Where his priorities really lie, and now he's looking to retire he cuts his losses and the willows variety centre gets wound up (takes his
Money and runs)'"
Talk to 'Cavendish' about suitable medication.
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Talk to 'Cavendish' about suitable medication.'"
You really a nasty bitter C*nt aren't you , hiding behind your keyboard. I'm pretty easy too find.. Come join more than a thousand followers on my twitter and show your face , or actually come meet me at the Salford stadium. I have nothing to hide or fear. Unlike you , im not an the odious belittling ,smart ars* cretin who continues to look Down your nose at others.
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| Quote ="CavendishStreet"You really a nasty bitter C*nt aren't you , hiding behind your keyboard. I'm pretty easy too find.. Come join more than a thousand followers on my twitter and show your face , or actually come meet me at the Salford stadium. I have nothing to hide or fear. Unlike you , im not an the odious belittling ,smart ars* cretin who continues to look Down your nose at others.'"
Thought you weren't coming on here any more?
Got any other exclusives for us?
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| Back on topic now
Anyone know who I would contact as I have a signed Fred shirt from the squad after the last game @ the Willows I'd happily donate to raise a little.
If anyone knows if there is a method set up for cash donations it might be an idea to put on a sticky on here as again I'll give what I can out my Christmas wage. I hate to think of the club going under and me not doing what I can, would be nice if the anti this and pro that people on here all pulled in the same direction for a change and did what they can help rather than just bitched on here as all the name calling masks the fact were close to not having a team to follow.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Back on topic now
Anyone know who I would contact as I have a signed Fred shirt from the squad after the last game @ the Willows I'd happily donate to raise a little.
If anyone knows if there is a method set up for cash donations it might be an idea to put on a sticky on here as again I'll give what I can out my Christmas wage. I hate to think of the club going under and me not doing what I can, would be nice if the anti this and pro that people on here all pulled in the same direction for a change and did what they can help rather than just bitched on here as all the name calling masks the fact were close to not having a team to follow.'"
I am with you Mich - if we can get a fund set up I will donate too.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Back on topic now
Anyone know who I would contact as I have a signed Fred shirt from the squad after the last game @ the Willows I'd happily donate to raise a little.
If anyone knows if there is a method set up for cash donations it might be an idea to put on a sticky on here as again I'll give what I can out my Christmas wage. I hate to think of the club going under and me not doing what I can, would be nice if the anti this and pro that people on here all pulled in the same direction for a change and did what they can help rather than just bitched on here as all the name calling masks the fact were close to not having a team to follow.'"
Totally agree about it being nice if the fans could pull together, but as for a fund for donations, we don't know what (if anything) is needed, and what it's for at this stage. Obviously there's Forever Reds, which is always accepting donations and is backed up by FSA regulation and strict rules on how monies can only support Rugby League in the area.
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| Quote ="EX.SALF.UNI"d040.gif
Talk to 'Cavendish' about suitable medication.'"
Deplorable. A horrible comment worthy of an apology. As your avatar infers a degree aptitude, perhaps you should apply it less callously and leave the controversial nastiness to Frankie Boyle?
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Thought you weren't coming on here any more?
Got any other exclusives for us?'"
Touché Daz , surprised your joining in with the school ground cat call.
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| how have you got into this mess
one word
superleague
the main reason all clubs even ours get into this mess,either chasing it or trying to stay in it
The money the rfl have wasted in london,wales etc would have helped heart land clubs build a sound base to build from both a financially and team point of view
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| The RFL have not spent a single penny on the London club, ever.
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"Rightly or wrongly,
The last two years or so, have been like a really bad dream, one from which we aren't seemingly going to wake up from. Scriptwriters from a certain other Salford based soap opera could surely not have come up with what we have been served up:
The sale of decent young talent eg Myler, Turner, Ratchford / McRae going on leave following stress / Alker getting sacked and the whole sorry saga involved with the dismissal of the hitherto iconic clubman / Vievers in / Vievers out / Parish in / Parish out / Vievers in / the shambolic lead up to the final game at the Willows and the potential to sell the new vision to a 10,000 crowd, spurned / a hopeless inept loss to Leigh at the first game at the new stadium / playing the first competitive game in an inch of snow / Sale move in before we've had a chance to warm the bed / Matty Smith sold with a third of the season remaining / players undermining the club on Twitter / a player taking the club to tribunal in an attempt to get out of his contract / a sponsor employed to help the club with their finances getting involved with a winding up petition against the club / players employed to help the club with their on-field performances getting involved with a winding up petition against the club / an extensively dragged-out 'financial rescue' which amounted to a failed attempt to get a loan to see us lurch on for another year...
I've no doubt missed out plenty of other issues which I've either forgotten or blanked from my memory to save further pain.
Less than one year on from the dawning of our new dream, we are faced with the ultimate nightmare: no club to support at all and the loss of our tired but beloved old ground. With no framed turf to help remember her by...'"
Tanks for reminding me how we got into this mess!
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| Quote ="Iain"Totally agree about it being nice if the fans could pull together, but as for a fund for donations, we don't know what (if anything) is needed, and what it's for at this stage. Obviously there's Forever Reds, which is always accepting donations and is backed up by FSA regulation and strict rules on how monies can only support Rugby League in the area.'"
I'd be a bit wary of donating direct to the club if I were you. Look what happened to the £500k that Bradford raised in this way, swallowed up paying off directors loans and then still went into Admin.
I am a Wakey fan and have been through this also but I will tell you what our Supporters Trust advised Bradford fans to do (and were ignored). If you are going to ask fans to donate to the cause get the money donated into some sort of Trust (is Forever Reds your Supporters Trust?) and have it ready for coming out of Admin rather than using it to try and stop yourselves going into Admin.
How much better off would you be if you raised a couple of hundred thousand pounds and could put that towards a newco coming out of admin rather than it diappearing into a hole like the £1/2 Million at Bradford did.
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| I have to agree with the above comment. I never truely understood the premise of donating to a club directly, with no control over where the money goes.
If my own club where in a similar situation I would want some idea of how much and what it will pay for and once that is gone, where will the club be financially. Still making losses, profit, break even????
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| No one's advocating a straight donation, are they?
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"The RFL have not spent a single penny on the London club, ever.'"
Thats like saying Salford won the grand final last year
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| Quote ="jason b"Thats like saying Salford won the grand final last year'"
I'm afraid not. There are many myths about the London club, including the one about the millions the RFL wasted on it. London have received no special finance from the RFL, full stop. I assume you don't object to their receiving their share of TV and sponsor money?
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| Money in specie then.
every time the RFL gave or gives a club assistance with marketing, or specalist administration etc the salary of those individuals who are assisting the club or costs of companies providing services, is paid for by the RFL as apposed to the club paying for it directly.
Although no cash passes directly to the club (although i am not convinced on this either) its does come out of the RFL's pocket and into a suppliers.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"OK. Give me ONE specific instance of the RFL 'pouring millions' or even thousands into the London club and I'll happily apologise.'"
Be prepared for no response.
The RFL have not given London/Harlequins any financial assistance, nor marketing/development assistance above that which they give to any other club.
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| I suspect that I'm not alone in not really giving a shiny one right now about what may or may not have been given to the London club by the RFL.
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| Quote ="Iain"I suspect that I'm not alone in not really giving a shiny one right now about what may or may not have been given to the London club by the RFL.'"
And your attitude is the correct one. Moaning about fantasy money going ( or not, actually ) to London will not help Salford one jot. I just wish someone who remembers the glory days in the early seventies when getting 8k at the Willows was no big deal would come in and get Salford back on the right track.
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| From the outside looking in, and please don't shoot the messenger because I come in good faith...
You've relied upon a long needed move to a SL quality stadium and it's not worked. Devil and deep blue sea. The Willows wasn't good enough for those up the food chain and with the franchise farce you had no choice but to move.
You are not alone in that.
We (Leigh) had exactly the same issue, once you lose your secondary spend income (pies and pints) and a disproportionate amount spent is on rent, it's a one way trip to financial hell.
The warning signs of your move were there a year or so ago when you moved your day to day squad activities to LSV and said you'd have to basically double your crowds; whoever, whatever, that needs addressing.
We had a couple of years of trouble with LSV Co, issues that have improved enormously; until all parties realise one cannot survive without the other then you'll never succeed at Barton.
Good luck.
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| ` until all parties realise one cannot survive without the other then you'll never succeed at Barton.`
Exactly - thats why we have to lobby the Councillors in favour of our presence there over the Christmas period.
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