still very bitter and more free tickets,
we have bugger all to play for so nobody even with season tickets can be bothered to go simples really, no relegation may give you stability but it makes for some poor end of season games with only pride to play for.

Some good points last night Phil's two solo efforts just too late for one, but again too many players with their backs to play and allowing 2 tries in first ten mins again means up against it straight away, I did think there may have been a doubt about the first but with video refs at all grounds Super League will not be a level playing field,
one axample would Eastmonds try have been awarded without the VR last night?
The rest of the game was the same one up rugby, bad passing poor disciple and very poor tackling.

1. We were lucky to finish as close as we did in the end. We were very poor in my opinion. far too often we look to run the ball at their big men. Against Saints we tried to play a bit of rugby and, shock horror, we won. Why can't players and coaches see this when it is glaringly obvious to everyone who watches.

2. Too many players don't look bothered and we wonder why the fans who go don't bother to sing and many others don't bother to go at all. Too many players robbing a living imo.

3. Officials robbing a living. I thought ref made some poor decisions tonight as well as against Saints (I know some people will shout me down on that becasue our judgement is all to often clouded when we win). Off side and forward passes seem to be a thing of the past. Obstruction is only given when we have a big screen to check it on and how he gave a high tackle last night when the highest player was below the shoulder I don't know. And before anyone has a go and says "we can't blame the ref" I'm not, I think they are poor in general and not just against us. Some went for us last night which I thought he got wrong. And yet again a linesmen don't understand the rules regarding conversions. i.e. The ball is supposed to go between the uprights for it to be a goal. Wakey's second goal didn't go over. Even the photographer in front of me couldn't believe it had been given. And whoever is in charge of timekeeping was clearly as bored as the rest of us and wanted to go home.

To sum up Wakefield deserved the win but should have had it sewn up long before the end of the game. We are qiute frankly pathetic. And please, enough with the persistant attendance bashing and relaise that there are at least 2 teams in this league that have a smaller following than we have.

What a silly thing to say - teams will always inevitably score tries off of penalties giving you better field position and a fresh tackle count. I'd hazard a guess that with the amount of penalties we gave away that Wakefield scored some of their tries off the back of penalties. Doesn't somehow make them worth less than any other try scored.

I was sat in the front row of the family stand, right behind where all the Wakey fans were stood, I turned to my missus on 49 minutes, just after Wakey had scored, and said "that seemed to wake them up" as it was the first time all night that we'd heard any actual singing from either set of fans. As my original post said, I never heard the Salford fans all night.


I know, that's why I said in my post that the scoreline flattered us?!


I know. They were actually warned 3 times if you were watching. If you read my comments on the Wakey board you'll see I said the ref didn't get much wrong, although he was a bit pedantic (for both teams).


Never booed once at The Willows, not last night, not ever. Never will.


Maybe you should learn to read before quoting me and trying to post an arguementative comment?

I saw the same last time I stood in there.
Will not go in the shed again until these numpties decide to fook off.
They are a disgrace to the club.
I am 100% most of them do not even understand the rules.

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Like I've said elsewhere, once Myler's gone he should hopefully get his chance.

as a wakey fan who is often on the wrong side of the penalty count (rightly or wrongly) it was good for once for it to go the other way. it was hard to tell whether they were or they weren't fair decisions but irrespective to give so many away makes it impossible to get any momentum or field position. on the back it gives no platform for the likes of myler to take advantage of for large parts of the game. throw in your error count as well and there was no way you were going to get a result.

Still does!

Saved one of his better performances for us then

Fair enough. Coaching still at fault though. I know when Ferguson scored right next to the posts he was running at Ratchford and Smith, not a forward in sight, IIRC the same with Korki's try. That's gotta be down to gameplan.

DO NOT FORGET THE COMMON BASICS -

You don't think Brough was worth at least 6 points to you lot then?



I've played at prop, and never had to be told to run at halfbacks, given the opportunity, especially close to the try line.

I did it plenty though!

I am concerned about Korki if he had to be coached to do that, or told is was part of the gameplan?!

Thoughts on the game?

Firstly Alker
Now is the time to remove him from Dunny half. He is too slow and obvious. He needs to be used as a defensive player. Still think the club was wrong to give him the captain's job back.

Half Backs.
So it it pouring with rain so both half backs spend all game kicking a nice gentle kick through? why didn't they try something different.

Effort
I am surprised that McGillivary hasn't been mentioned in 3 pages of comments. He was one of the few to chase down kicks and make Wakefield defend.

The worst of all from Friday is how annoyed McRae made me on the way home.
How can he say we played well, and competed in every area. He was watching something different to me then.

How have we developed into a penalty machine? OK some odd calls such as our pen for the player falling over (might be Henry) The TJs looked like they had been brought in from a retirement home.

Players should be fined for the number of pens given away and the money go to one of John's charities.

This comes at a time when my disillusionment with the club is at it's highest, they are treating the loyal fans like idiots with their public statements.

agree with a lot of the comments on here,especially red willows.

Think the club will realise how fans feel when it comes to renewing season tickets,quite a few I know will pick their games next year!

Wakey were the better side, we ended the match quite strong cant seem to make up my mind if wakey were playing for time.

Apart from that it was the usual problems, selfharming again, giving penalties, position and possession away far to easily and often.
What happened just before half time with the Korki try was horrible and criminal to say the least, but personally i cant seem to get that upset about it just like the players, just going to shrug my shoulders and plod on.

Korki was brilliant for them id have him back tomorrow, just what we need.

The players had a go, average no frills,no praise from me, turned up did a bit went home.
Will need a bit more next week if the result is to be different

I was on about our defensive gameplan, not Wakefields attacking. Yes clearly forwrads will run at half backs but shouldn't our forwards be somewhere in the vicinty? As I say they both scored next to the sticks without a Salford forward laying a finger on them.

BUT WE ARE A SUPER LEAGUE CLUB SO HA

Still nowt to do with game plan though.

McRae has clearly not said "Tell you what fellas, well have Myler, Smith and Ratchford defending in the middle of the park against their forwards".

I appreciate that Wakey shouldn't have been allowed to score under the sticks so easily, but that's do with individuals failing to hold their place in the defensive line.

As I said, it's nothing to do with game plan.

and Widnes is a poor excuse for a town....feck off

Not good enough either way whether it's down to the coaching or the players.