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| Quote ="TheButcher"I think it's something to do with his 'Man from milktray' impressions recently...'"
Thats one way of putting it
Obviously, everything at the moment is just rumour and so to comment wouldn't be wise of me. However, due to his rumoured 'misdemeanours' I don't think that the coach or players want him around the group anymore and, if true, not the type of person we want at our family orientated club. The togetherness and spirit being shown by the players on the field cannot be compromised by one man, better off gone. Great shame as he was starting to play some of his best rugby in a Cas shirt.
Head over to casforum Dirk if you want to read all of the rumours, it will give you the general idea
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Flanagan is out of contract and isn't part of any deal that will see Theo announced as a Saints player shortly.
With regards to others, Paterson made his bed when he agreed to join Leigh back in July. Super League looked a cert for the Leythers at the time, since then the wheels have well and truly fell off Beaumont and Rowleys wagon and consequently Paterson tried to renege on his Leigh deal only for Tim Sheens to tell him to stick it.
The others as has been mentioned on here is all to do with brown envelopes and money. Hansen and Chase thought they were invincible and used this to their advantage, the club are better off without either of them here in my opinion. All part of the same clique, I hope it is the last time we see such a high influx on Kiwi/Samoan players in the dressing room at any one time.'"
The first inaccurate post I have seen from you JGR, normally your spot on.
Paterson was leaving whatever division Leigh were in, his family where left high & dry with Visa issues and were on the verge of being deported (Marwan failed to cover the cost as agreed) and so he chose not to take up a second year option.
Hansen has asked for an early release because there are too many money concerns & dramas and Sheens cannot guarantee he will stay as he wants the Australia job. The club desperately do not want Hansen to go and have told him so, he has NOT signed for leigh.
Maitua was signing for Salford but they failed to pay him on his FIRST payday with the money they got transferred from Fev, he then chose to sign the Leigh contract.
Chase has been used as a scape goat even though he wasn't the only one to fail to come back early from pre-arranged leave because Salford NEED his large contract off the books quickly.
Every player Salford have approached for 2016 so far have declined to sign.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"
, I just see Carney as the type of player Sheens would prefer out wide rather than BJB and I'd agree with him.'"
Have I missed something ?
Has Sheens commented on this ?
I'd like Carney here and assume that Sheens agrees with me !
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| Thanks Caslad will do, thought it would be something along those lines.
As for the comments "not the type of person we want around our club", given our track record he'd fit in nicely at the AJBELL then
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| Quote ="Johnny Headline"
Every player Salford have approached for 2016 so far have declined to sign.'"
Surely not.
We'll soon see
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Have I missed something ?
Has Sheens commented on this ?
I'd like Carney here and assume that Sheens agrees with me !'"
I missed a bit, for pedantic readers...
'...If that was the case.'
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Surely not.
We'll soon see'"
It's definitely not entirely true - Forster, G.Griffin and Sa'u all signed new deals, even if it was a couple of months ago.
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| Quote ="Johnny Headline"The first inaccurate post I have seen from you JGR, normally your spot on.
Paterson was leaving whatever division Leigh were in, his family where left high & dry with Visa issues and were on the verge of being deported (Marwan failed to cover the cost as agreed) and so he chose not to take up a second year option.
Hansen has asked for an early release because there are too many money concerns & dramas and Sheens cannot guarantee he will stay as he wants the Australia job. The club desperately do not want Hansen to go and have told him so, he has NOT signed for leigh.
Maitua was signing for Salford but they failed to pay him on his FIRST payday with the money they got transferred from Fev, he then chose to sign the Leigh contract.
Chase has been used as a scape goat even though he wasn't the only one to fail to come back early from pre-arranged leave because Salford NEED his large contract off the books quickly.
Every player Salford have approached for 2016 so far have declined to sign.'"
Where did I say Paterson wasn't leaving regardless? When he signed, Leigh were flying and he as did many others expected them to be in Super League next season. The visa issues were sorted by Derek Beaumont (apparently) which is where the move to Leigh materialised from. Since it has become clear Leigh wont be in Super League, Paterson has sounded out the possibility of staying.
Maitua is signing for Leigh because he wants to play in easier games. He's 34 next season and the appetite for Super League isnt there, not with Leigh offering him a good contract either. This was the initial reason he signed for Fev last season too.
Sheens knows he isn't getting the Australia job.
I was told Hansen signed a contract with Leigh last Monday, time will tell who's right.
Tasi was also fined, but unlike Chase accepted his punishment. Rangi has been pushing his luck for a while and as I have mentioned numerous times, he has been pimping himself out to clubs since June.
PS - re every player Salford have thus far approached refusing to sign, also not true.
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| Is this announcement happening?
The silence is deafening.
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| Is Johnny Headline, Barker?
He floats around and posts on all the likely forums.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Is Johnny Headline, Barker?
He floats around and posts on all the likely forums.'"
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| See Neil's on twitter pimping himself out to golf pro's, change of career direction as a caddie.
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"See Neil's on twitter pimping himself out to golf pro's, change of career direction as a caddie.'"
Didn't think there was much call for clown caddies...
To soon?
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Is this announcement happening?
The silence is deafening.'"
The big announcement was the news that another four players are leaving and it will be saving Marwan a right butty.
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| The announcement is probably that there's going to be an announcement. Then we'll have a 6 week build up to the real anouncement, at a press conference, but everyone will know who's signed by then anyway.
It's got precedent anyway.
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| Quote ="DirkDiggler"What's carney actually done as to why you want to get rid of the top 5 wingers in the league.'"
Porking somebody he shouldn’t have. Not in a David Cameron way, you understand.
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| I know to some it won't matter that much but to me it is one of the reasons I'm falling out of love with Salford.
First there was meant to be one announcement yesterday, this was then cancelled as another was going to be made today at the same time.
Shouldn't be hard to organise something like this, if one of the announcements isn't possible at the least drop one and help build up the tension on the second.
The little things that can be done so easily still seem just that little bit more tricky to Salford than they need to be.
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| Keep the Faith MR .
I'm happy to let the blood on the carpet dry & the dust to settle a while.
remember a time when you had to wait until the Pink arrived or scan Rugby Leaguer in the newsagents weekly to hear anything.
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| Quote ="middleman"Keep the Faith MR .
I'm happy to let the blood on the carpet dry & the dust to settle a while.
remember a time when you had to wait until the Pink arrived or scan Rugby Leaguer in the newsagents weekly to hear anything.'"
Just read it's now next Wednesday, all just crap.
Why make an announcement there's going to be an announcement, you don't really see other clubs doing it.
The lack of updates today from the club is what rankles most, just looks amateurish to me.
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| Sometimes it takes longer to get a target over the line and signed on the dotted line then people think, maybe certain people can't get to a meeting etc... we're safe give over for a week or two and let things settle,, as I put we are SAFE !! That's all that matters enjoy not having to go into the last game praying on other results. The announcement will come when it comes it could be many a thing I understand why people are getting annoyed but maybe other options have become available now it's drawing to the last game of the season
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| Not fussed about waiting for an announcement, but like MR says, the Club should be more professional and not stoke the fires until everything's sorted. It annoys fans and makes the Club look unprofessional. The Club would be better just saying nothing then blowing their load when everything is done and dusted.
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| Butcher you have got to admit,we are unprofessional.
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| Quote ="red eyes"Butcher you have got to admit,we are unprofessional.'"
In a lot of areas, yes.
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| Not bothered about quick announcement more interested in the right type of announcement/recruitment, if it means no news for a few weeks I will take this all day long. On too many occasion the club have made foolish statements shooting from the hip before thinking what they want to announce correctly, for me this has been part of the problem, we have finally achieved our goal in a difficult season surely we can wait a bit longer.
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| I don't think fans would have any problem waiting until after the last game for an announcement... had the club not said there was going to be an announcement on Monday, then Tuesday.
Basically, all the club needed to do on Monday so as not to make people think them unprofessional was absolutely nothing. They got that wrong.
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