Annoying when people compare every day jobs to professional sportsmen. Thousands of people don't spend their own hard earned wage to come and watch me work. When you're a professional sportsmen you accept the criticism and the plaudits, it's part and parcel of the profession.

I'm glad the players, the coaching staff and whoever else have seen that tweet and know that performances like Friday are not good enough and won't be accepted at Salford anymore. I would much rather read what Marwan said in his post match comments than the usual drivel.

I notice Tim Sherwood has taken a similar stance recently with the Spurs team, although he has gone much further than the Doc ever did who commented on the level of performance only whereas Sherwood openly said his players aren't good enough for the top 4.

I look at the Doc as one of us - a supporter - and he has only said what most fans were stating after the match. He has more right than any of us to say it. We don't want sanitised comments when we all know the team are not playing to their capabilities. I remember last year the Saints owner having a go at his team when they were not performing. All this about being upset if your boss tells you what you are not doing what he wants is nonsense - get a backbone and sort it out or clear off.

Quote ="StanLee"I remember last year the Saints owner having a go at his team when they were not performing. '" I think you need to remember again. Last year a LOT of saints fans were calling for Browns head (particularly after a very dour performance against hull Kr at home which preceded this I believe) - McManus told em to back off: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/23144236 Of course if you can show me where he had a go at the team I'll retract, but I'm fairly certain this is the only public affair from it (whilst "reminding" the players about being a saints player behind closed doors). Whilst it's all well and good saying it's only what the fans think; the fans don't have the power to sack noble/ the players. More pressure than normal for noble this weekend...

Quote ="StanLee"I remember last year the Saints owner having a go at his team when they were not performing. '" I think you need to remember again. Last year a LOT of saints fans were calling for Browns head (particularly after a very dour performance against hull Kr at home which preceded this I believe) - McManus told em to back off: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/23144236 Of course if you can show me where he had a go at the team I'll retract, but I'm fairly certain this is the only public affair from it (whilst "reminding" the players about being a saints player behind closed doors). Whilst it's all well and good saying it's only what the fans think; the fans don't have the power to sack noble/ the players. More pressure than normal for noble this weekend...

The example set by your chairman - [url=http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/10520337.McManus___Friday_was_nowhere_near_good_enough_from_a_club_of_the_stature_of_St_Helens_/?ref=rcHERE[/url and not your chairmans usual style [url=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/st-helens-sack-head-coach-3350405Beware The Ides Of March[/url

To be fair Noble should feel a little heat for that performance on Friday, the tactics were shocking and we were more akin to a bunch of headless chickens rather than highly paid sports stars.

As far as I'm concerned as head coach the buck stops with him to get the right game plan sorted for each and every game, Friday I think he got it very wrong.

Yes,of course,if we are not winning the coach must feel the heat.
The buck stops with him,injuries or not.
I certainly think Noble will come through but he must be feeling the pressure and that's the way it should be

This warm weather training and 'time to gel' isn't original.( In fairness I doubted it but proved myself wrong )

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/2388889/Britain-warm-up-for-challenge.htmlHe Tried It As GB Coach[/url

I was beginning to think it was just spin but as it is in his mindset why were more pre-season games not played?

Getting it right against the top teams on or around Easter may be a challenge too far.

Anyway,a week is a long time in rugby league - the season starts next Sunday !

Koukash is amateurish here, he's not behaving like a successful owner. He's just passing the buck and trying to be popular with the supporters for "speaking his mind".

Koukash is the man who said he would be 'honoured' if Noble would take the Salford job so if that appointment is going wrong whose fault is that? Noble would have never in a million years been at Salford under the old regime.

Koukash must have sanctioned all the new signings coming in too so they are his team. He's not a supporter he's the man taking the decisions so he has to accept responsibility with the rest of the group.

Sheikh Mansour never did this when Mark Hughes was City coach, he kept a dignified silence then moved to get Mancini in when he was available.

The more Koukash behaves like this the more other top coaches are just going to think this owner is a nightmare to work with, **** that, so Noble is as good as he is going to get.

I'd be pretty embarrassed to go on the Wire forum and lecture them on the pros and cons of Tony Smith and the backroom there. The reason being is that it would just be conjecture and poorly thought out guesswork. I wouldn't leave myself open by being an idiot. It's impressive that so many fans of other Clubs are either so clued-up on the goings-on of a Club they spend no time with, or are oblivious to how stupid they come across.

I know where my money is going on this one...

Perhaps he's trolling you Butcher. touche' SC.

I think this sums it up. Yes, it is refreshing for an owner to speak his mind but he cannot class himself as a fan, because unlike the opinions of fans, everything he says publicly can be misconstrued, purposely or otherwise, to sell papers, get web hits etc. And there is little point having a media function at the club if Koukash continues to flout it.

My post applied to plenty of others who are not.

Whether you like it or not, the whole Koukash/Salford 'project' is this season's big story, so its inevitable that RL fans will take an interest in what is happening at your club and will obviously try to interject with some 'views-from-the-outside' - Obviously, some will come across as pure conjecture, but isn't that the norm on any internet forum??....However much you Salford fans think Koukash is keeping you all in the know, the likelihood is you probably know as much as those who you accuse of idle gossip.

Personally, I think this particular thread has been a decent debate and most of the views have been perfectly valid.... I actually think its interesting to read the views from all angles, and for us Warrington fans, your situation is a particularly interesting one because its fair to say we went through the process of what is happening with you, with the exception that Mr Koukash seems intent on putting most things publicly on the line, whereas Simon Moran preferred the role of the quiet investor.

...and interestingly dita's slot, it was a concerned wire fan that started off this topic debate!

I'd go along with that.

As a RL fan, I'm feel embarrassed by the Docs latest tweet aimed at Dennis Betts...

"Some coaches need to improve their attitude 'by a million miles' and show more respect to other clubs' players. Mate, enjoy your glory"

Wonder what had gone on?

I dunno but after all he tweets through a telephone so why does he not just make it personal instead,?

Denis Betts made a comment to the press after the game saying he thought Widnes were a million miles better than Salford. It seems the Doc has taken offence and thinks it's bad sportsmanship.

I'm not a fan of Twitter on any level so I don't think anyone with a brain should use it.

I can only imagine if the Doc has made a comment like that there has something gone on to merit his comment.

Probably never find out.

The result would suggest Betts wasn't out of line saying it, I thought he had thicker skin than that?

It was Denis Betts comment that even if Meli had scored the try right near the end that would have tied the game he said Tommy Lee wouldnt have converted the try anyway.

Tommy Lee isn't a regular goal kicker and it's highly unlikely he would have nailed it from the touchline, going off his previous attempts. I think Betts was just being honest rather than disrespectful.

Nobody is disputing that but when was the last time you saw a post game interview where one teams coach starts bagging the other teams players on an individual basis.It was a pointless comment that cant be proved right or wrong anyway so why say it.Just bad taste really.

I wasn't aware that Betts was publically criticising our players individually. Which of our players was he bagging?