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| I hope Mr. Randy Watson is supporting.
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"From the Church website
"The church is blessed with a good organ, a small choir, and a group of bell ringers who ring the church’s 8 bells."
Can't beat a good organ .....'"
Depending on which parts of our support turn up on Monday, there could be a lot more than 8 bells there...
Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"They also seem to care about their workforce with a share scheme [url=http://www.tesco-careers.com/home/you/stores/rewards-and-benefits/teamLink[/url'"
Tesco are well known for treating their employees like sh**e. They were all over the workfare scheme like a rash.
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| Fuckingings!!!
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"Fuckingings!!!'"
See, Fungus doesn't like Tesco either.
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| Quote ="GT"Depending on which parts of our support turn up on Monday, there could be a lot more than 8 bells there...
Tesco are well known for treating their employees like sh**e. They were all over the workfare scheme like a rash.'"
Well, after working in a fairly senior role at Tesco for the last 4 years, I can pretty much say that I'm certainly not treated like sh**e! I enjoy an industry-leading, award winning pension scheme, staff discount, free shares, save as you earn shares, buy as you earn shares, free life insurance: the list goes on. NB. these are available to ALL staff, by the way. Don't forget, Tesco employs more than 295k staff in the UK, (largest private sector employer in Europe, I believe) and more than 500k worldwide - it's pretty difficult to satisfy all those people all of the time.
In relation to workfare, Tesco weren't the only retailer involved, (Sainsburys?) and I recall that we confirmed that anyone taking up a placement would be taken on permanently if they did a good job: don't see what the problem with that is??
Regarding Mondays' meeting, I'll certainly try to attend if at all possible.
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| I'm working in Birmingham on Monday but hope to be able to get back in time for the meeting.
Good questions from Barton flyer I gues I'd add:
- how genuine is the current interest from possible investors
- what is the current board's position in relations to the debt their owed? Would/could/will they take the hit if it secured the club's future?
- if a new buyer isn't found will we be able to have a team in SL next season?
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| Working till 7pm Monday as it's my busiest week of the year so might struggle to make it though I'm going to try.
I'd ask if the players who are leaving are just being released or if we are getting fees for them? seems odd when we have a dwindling squad to release more first teamers and is Sidlow the last one?
Has there been any form of discussion with Sale about a joint sporting venture with Kennedy involved?
Do we think there were any personal axes being ground when the council vetoed the loan? 1 in particular who is very local seems to be running headlong into a massive show down with Peel over it's proposed development of Worsley New Hall into a gold course and hotel.
When can we realistically expect season ticket news?
Are the Christmas friendlies in any danger?
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| Quote ="Chico"I hope Mr. Randy Watson is supporting.'"
God damn that boy can sing.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Working till 7pm Monday as it's my busiest week of the year so might struggle to make it though I'm going to try.
I'd ask if the players who are leaving are just being released or if we are getting fees for them? seems odd when we have a dwindling squad to release more first teamers and is Sidlow the last one?
Has there been any form of discussion with Sale about a joint sporting venture with Kennedy involved?
Do we think there were any personal axes being ground when the council vetoed the loan? 1 in particular who is very local seems to be running headlong into a massive show down with Peel over it's proposed development of Worsley New Hall into a gold course and hotel.
When can we realistically expect season ticket news?
Are the Christmas friendlies in any danger?'"
I take it you work for Santa? won`t he help us out?
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| Quote ="Diavolo Rosso"The club need to be clear (a) why the meeting is being called and what they hope to achieve and (b) that there will be FULL transparency with supporters. Otherwise why should anyone bother turning up to get the mushroom treatment again?
Could not agree more, I will be there at a public meeting but I am not putting my and up to say please sir I would like to go.
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| I attach my question to the Chairman, I am not able to attend as I cannot change other arrangements. It will be interesting to see if it is answered.
The Chairman is on record as stating Salford have a 'short term cash problem' but after that we have solid plans which are viable and vetted. Will Mr. Wilkinson yell us the amount of the temporary short fall, presumably it is not he £1.5m loans requested. If we know the amount it will be easier to plan fund raising efforts and would not the issue of season tickets go a long way to meeting the gap? Do the 'solid plans' include the signing of new players?
Stanley Lee
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Can I just remind everyone that rather than just post on here your questions should be emailed to
questions@reds.co.uk
You get an auto-acknowledge so you know its been received
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Can I just remind everyone that rather than just post on here your questions should be emailed to
questions@reds.co.uk
You get an auto-acknowledge so you know its been received
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| This was the copy of the emailed question
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| My question....What do you charge charities for players turning up to charitable events? If so ,what charties have you charged?and how much? Have you borrowed money of the Salford charitable foundation?If so how much?Do you feel that children in need is a better cause than yours?
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| Quote ="Man in Madrid"icon_biggrin.gif Well, after working in a fairly senior role at Tesco for the last 4 years, I can pretty much say that I'm certainly not treated like sh**e! I enjoy an industry-leading, award winning pension scheme, staff discount, free shares, save as you earn shares, buy as you earn shares, free life insurance: the list goes on. NB. these are available to ALL staff, by the way. Don't forget, Tesco employs more than 295k staff in the UK, (largest private sector employer in Europe, I believe) and more than 500k worldwide - it's pretty difficult to satisfy all those people all of the time.'"
I guess you've had a different experience to everyone else I've heard from, then. Which is good. For you, obviously.
Quote ="Man in Madrid"In relation to workfare, Tesco weren't the only retailer involved, (Sainsburys?) and I recall that we confirmed that anyone taking up a placement would be taken on permanently if they did a good job: don't see what the problem with that is?? '"
The scheme allowed companies to take on staff without paying them in the guise of work experience and CV building. So rather than giving people who were out of work the chance to do a paid job, even if only temporarily, they were asked to work for free instead. All of this on a scheme which was found, when reviewed, to no provide any improved chance of finding work after you'd been through it.
But, we're digressing, this is a completely different thread topic altogether. Hopefully come tonight we'll have more positive things to talk about.
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| Quote ="mitie mouse"My question....What do you charge charities for players turning up to charitable events? If so ,what charties have you charged?and how much? Have you borrowed money of the Salford charitable foundation?If so how much?Do you feel that children in need is a better cause than yours?'"
I will be at the meeting and I will eagerly await you asking your one question that is split into several parts.Bye the way what is a chartie?
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| I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.
This meeting has only come about because the Salford Star put a spanner in the works of the councils secret bailout plan meaning the spin doctor Wilkinson now has to face the music. The beach boys heads will be back in the sand by 19:05pm tonight.
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| Quote ="Philyourboots"I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.'"
Actually, most people I know are going along to constructively question the club about the current situation, find out the level of sh*te we are actually in and try to help find a way forward. Can't do that if you're just going with the intention of calling everyone c*nts. Similarly, if you're just going to laud Wilky and not be open to any criticism then you're not going to help either.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning. It's a shame it doesn't happen on here more often.
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| Quote ="GT"Actually, most people I know are going along to constructively question the club about the current situation, find out the level of sh*te we are actually in and try to help find a way forward. Can't do that if you're just going with the intention of calling everyone c*nts. Similarly,'"
Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.
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| Quote ="Philyourboots"Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.'"
Are you going or not pal, out of curiosity?
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| Quote ="GT"
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning. It's a shame it doesn't happen on here more often.'"
I'll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.
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| Definately not I couldn't put myself through more lies and spin...
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| Quote ="Philyourboots"Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.'"
Who eats out of his palms? I think you're confusing me with someone else. Then again, I've also been accused of having an anti-club agenda on here before now so thanks for proving the point I'm making about the lack of constructive debates from both sides of the camp.
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| Quote ="The Black Cat"I'll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.'"
Unfortunately, you might be right. If the debating techniques on here are anything to go by it'll turn into a bunfight between the "everything's sh*t and you all want sacking" brigade and the "we're well run on a shoe string, you can't blame anyone at the club" brigade.
No doubt I'll get accused of being on both sides. Again.
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| Quote ="Philyourboots"I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.
This meeting has only come about because the Salford Star put a spanner in the works of the councils secret bailout plan meaning the spin doctor Wilkinson now has to face the music. The beach boys heads will be back in the sand by 19:05pm tonight.'"
Another add to the foes list.
Most of the people I know who are attending are doing so with valid salient questions to pose to the members of the board in question, they will ask in a reasoned manner not in the accusatory tone the members of the spasticity gang continually do on here.
Do you not think it is time to not have sides, cliques or chips on our shoulders? It would be much more productive if people saw the bigger picture for once?.
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