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| Quote ="Iain"Yeah, but if you're a landlord with two rooms to lease out and a mortgage to repay, you generally have a rental fee per room; you don't halve them both if you manage to let both out - unless you're not bothered about making money.'"
we only have the one room and that is being sublet, just like a number of council tenants used to do.
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| This just seems to be the nature of things with the club.
The web site is useless they only use facebook to make announcements.
The article seems to suggest our academy teams will ahve to play at Stockport (and pay extra)
Maybe the time has come to get aggressive and fight, not sure the current board are up for that though
Not a great day.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"we only have the one room and that is being sublet, just like a number of council tenants used to do.'"
What is your take on the deal we have been lumbered with?
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| Quote ="Bigpev"we only have the one room and that is being sublet, just like a number of council tenants used to do.'"
We have the one room being let out by a company that's there to return a profit.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"if Salford pay as much as they are paying now and Sale/Manchester only pay rent the debt would still be paid off in the same period, the only way it would be paid off in half the time is if both clubs continue to pay the same as Salford now, unlikely because of the rent issue and Sale/Manchester negotiations, some of the rent pays off the debt as far as I am aware. like a HP agreement.'"
Quote ="Bigpev"we only have the one room and that is being sublet, just like a number of council tenants used to do.'"
I don't get what you're saying. Sublet? Are you saying that Sale are renting off Salford rather that the SMC? That's the only way subletting can come into it.
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| Quote ="Walshovski"What is your take on the deal we have been lumbered with?'"
I think it is the best we could have got under the circumstances, personally I am pretty ed off with it, but unless Salford could find a sugar daddy this was always going to be the route, it may in the long run bring in more fans and we may improve as a club, we will get the marketing expertise of Sale/manchester as well.
The moment Red City developments went tits up I knew the ground would not be ours at the start, Wilkie has put a lot in but he is only a poor millionaire compared to other Rugby League club owners so we have to look for what is best for Salford in the long run. I now think he will sell the club before the end of the season and stay on as life president of the club with Kennedy buying Salford, then I feel that could be the real rocky ride, but why buy a team to make it fail. With Stockport he didn't buy a team in the top division with Salford he would have that and I think he may decide to put some money in.
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| lol queue doom and gloom, its no wonder other boards laugh at ours!
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Your take on this current development?'"
He doesn't really care he only comes to a handful of games.
And Pev stop talking in riddles as usual.
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| Quote ="KMT"lol queue doom and gloom, its no wonder other boards laugh at ours!'"
So how do you view all of this, then? Why do you, I'm assuming, see Sale moving into Barton and potentially becoming Primary Tenants a good thing?
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| Quote ="Bigpev"with Salford he would have that and I think he may decide to put some money in.'"
Maybe, but under a different name? Kennedy will get what he wants and have a 'Manchester' club fro each code playing there. It's not looking good.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"I now think he will sell the club before the end of the season and stay on as life president of the club with Kennedy buying Salford, then I feel that could be the real rocky ride, but why buy a team to make it fail. With Stockport he didn't buy a team in the top division with Salford he would have that and I think he may decide to put some money in.'"
Make it fail to push us out of the ground and attempt to make the Greater Manchester area a Rugby Union hotbed centred around 'Sharks.'
Good ol' Wilky's legacy is turning into something just as bad as his tenure as Chairman.
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| why is it such a bad thing? We need someone in the stadium to share the costs, by lowering these cost the money can be diverted to there areas such as the team or coachign staff. the fact we won't have as high running costs will surely make us a more attractive proposition to potential buyers. Also maybe Sale will be able to teach us a thing or two about marketing and give Mr Tarry a kick up the ar$e he needs. I do think Wilky has taken us a far as he can now, we need a new owner with drive and surely being in anew stadium, with a better playing staff than last year, instead of a run down stadium with no prospects and thrwoing money at things such as maintenaince is much more appealing investment?
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| Quote ="KMT" [uthe fact[/u we won't have as high running costs will surely make us a more attractive proposition to potential buyers. '"
Is that a fact? We don't know. There's an assumption that our costs decrease but I've not seen anything to confirm that. If it's true that ourselves and Sale will each be paying half of what we are currently paying that great - but I don't know that's the case and it doesn't seem to make sense. Why would we have been getting reports of Sale struggling to agree rent if the rent is half what we're currently paying. Do Sale consider that our current rent is 100% overvalued?
Quote ="Bigpev" it may in the long run bring in more fans and we may improve as a club, we will get the marketing expertise of Sale/manchester as well.'"
Quote ="KMT"Also maybe Sale will be able to teach us a thing or two about marketing and give Mr Tarry a kick up the ar$e he needs. '"
Sale have already said that they are going to develop their business and administration base at their facility in Carrington. How does that help us learn any more from their marketing than we can now? I don't see why they would want to help a rival organisation with their marketing, especially with their stated desire to "Seize Manchester and take the North West".
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Maybe, but under a different name? Kennedy will get what he wants and have a 'Manchester' club fro each code playing there. It's not looking good.'"
He might have to have a word with [url=http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/manchesterthis lot[/url and indeed [url=http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/mancuniansrlthese men[/url regarding copyright.
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| I seem to remember foretelling this many many months ago and being told on this board that I was paranoid. Well welcome to my paranoia folks!
As far as we were led to believe Salford City Reds had a contract as Primary Tennants, therefore if Sale are given it then they and the SMC are in breech of that and can surely be sued.
Finally, we as supporters should fight this. Maybe we should petition the council and Peel holdings and should that be too late (as I think it now is) maybe we should make life as uncomfortable for Sale as possible. Perhaps a picket line/ blockade at their first match.
Failing that I'm sure we can tip off the Brookhouse estate kids when all their Beemers and Lexus' are going to be left unattended!!!!
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| Pev : please either verify what Iain is saying or tell us its wrong. I cannot see how Salford RLFC can afford the rent that the stadium company would charge on the assumption that the amount is doubles as long as they fail to bring in other tenants.
As for the future of Salford: well, just as the city ups its standing, bang goes the only high-level professional team and ground.
Imagine Swinton being the only Salford club: my guts are twisting.
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| Anyone know if there is someone able to carry on,financially,with the union side named Sharks if that small club with a fanatical following of Caledonians,scattered around the world,accept the bid from Kennedy to take them over ?
The administrators at Rangers could make a decision later today.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Pev : please either verify what Iain is saying or tell us its wrong. I cannot see how Salford RLFC can afford the rent that the stadium company would charge on the assumption that the amount is doubles as long as they fail to bring in other tenants.
As for the future of Salford: well, just as the city ups its standing, bang goes the only high-level professional team and ground.
Imagine Swinton being the only Salford club: my guts are twisting.'"
from what I can gleen from the Monday meeting (not the SMC or club) the deal will relieve Salford of a lot of financial commitments re the stadium, currently Salford were paying the rent, if two move intogether as a couple you share the rent. I don't know if we get any money from the bars or the £13m contract went straight to the SMC which is effectively the council and Peel.
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| Quite correct that poster!!! We are Salford!!! We are in Salford!!! And we are Proud to be Salford!!!
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| Time for the cliques in our support to come to an end now. If we can't unite together over something like this we are just going to watch Sale walk all over us. Something needs to be sorted sooner rather than later before we end up in a similar situation as Leigh have been in (at war with the stadium company) or Stockport (sliding slowly in oblivion).
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