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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"
Adamson is predictable, hardly seen him look to offload, hardly seen him bust tackles, hardly seen any evasive footwork skills, never seen him spin out of the tackle trying to evade being tackled'"
For once, I actually agree with you...
I do think he does have a better attacking game in him though, just needs the right coaching. This is going back a couple of seasons, but I remember the Challenge Cup game when we beat Hull at their place a couple of seasons ago. He seemed unstoppable going forward, spinning out of and busting through tackles - probably the best game I can remember seeing him in.
In recent seasons he's seemed too focused on ball security. Turns himself backwards into the tacklers to avoid losing the ball and just doesn't seem to run it in hard at all. Definitely think he's capable of more though.
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| Quote ="The optimist" WOOSH '"
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| I'm with MR on this one, Adamson is starting to remind me of a young SBW. Fearsome in defence, strong running and a great pair of hands.
As for the Cas match, I'm really looking forward to what we can do against a team whose pack shouldn't smash us all over the park. There were some promising signs in the Wigan game and I'm convinced that. Given enough ball, Jodie & Danny will score for fun this season.
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| Prior to the arrival of SMc Luke Adamson looked to have the makings of a top class forward. Unfortunately like a lot of the young promising younger players we have their attacking instincts were coached out of them, and the safety first one man dire rugby we had to endure for over three seasons was inflicted on us.
I hope with better coaching we see the true potential of a number of our players.
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| I think Sean McC bears a heavy responsibility for a lot if our players going backwards, not just Luke Adamson. His attitude was that if you've not got the greatest talent in the squad then you just play percentage rugby meant everyone became fearful of making mistakes and never prepared to take any risks which in turn resulted in the dull fare we were presented with. It was obvious on the occasions when he first went off how much more expansive we could have been and hopefully will be this season.
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| Some of you people on here are really starting to show how inept you rugby league knowledge really is! Saying Adamson has great foot work and great off load?!?!? (Points and laugh at this person) Also comparing Adamson to Sonny Bill Williams, well I'll treat that comment with the content it deserves....
crack me up you lot on here, what next Feka for man of steel?!?! hahahahahahahahaha
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| Adamson, be it coaching or the players style, is at a crossroad. No doubt he will give 100% and i agree he is fine in defence but needs to improve his attack. It is the latter that hasn`t progressed and i`m sure we all want it to, time will tell. But this year is a big year for him.
The player (apart from the new front row lad, Feka something) that has impressed me in pre season is Anderson whol has looked like the palyer we thought we had last year.
McPherson seems to have niggly injuires which has limited his impact, though what i saw i liked.
Going into the season 2nd row for me (FWIW) would be Adamson & Anderson, with a soone to be McPherson knocking on the door.
Still concerned with Gleeson and the right sided defence which looked weak, not just his problem I know as I would expect both the 2nd row man and LF to be covering.
Interesting start to the season and if Cas are missing 4 Front Row Men then we need to go at them hard and often up the middle to bild that platform for Reg & Smith to exploit.
Roll on Saturday ! We can comiserate on Monday as we always do
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| Over the years I've stood on the terraces of Knowsley Rd , Central Park, Wheldon Rd, Wilderspool, even Headingley etc and discussed the relative merits of ours or opposition Players, not always in agreement but always in good humour , it's one of the things that makes our sport what it is ...
thats why I find it disturbing that an element of our own supporters cannot enter into debate on this forum without resorting to insulting each another because they have a difference of opinion.
Being a Salford fan we rarely buy or develop ' perfect ' Rugby players , and we don't have to look hard to find fault in all of them.
however that doesn't mean we cannot praise part of their game without copping for an avalanche or crticism or abuse.
lighten up !
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| Quote ="middleman"
Being a Salford fan [size=150we rarely buy[/size or develop ' perfect ' Rugby players , and we don't have to look hard to find fault in all of them.
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You are right we haven't bought a player for many years now since the Bosman ruling! Just out of interest does anyone know who was the last Salford player to sign for a transfer fee?
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| Quote ="Dantes Inferno"I think you need to watch the game a lot closer to have Adamson in the squad. "I'm afraid a top club would of snapped him up by now if he was Great as you're making him out to be just like O'connor, Myler, Turner and Ratchford.
Again you talk utter bollox........'"
Once again your here spouting nonsense about somthing you didnt witness... Which was, Adamson's much improved performance on last season. RE your view that all good players are at "big club's" then how to you explain Mr Chase's (Man o Steel!) long term commitment to the mighty Tiger's - I'm sure you'll have a good answer for that one How you can comment on my observations on the game when you yourself have admitted you didnt even attend the game is beyond me. errr you dont know you werent there ?! I'll ask you again....Why do you continue to bombard us with your rubbish oppinions and insults towards those at the club when your not going to be attending any more games or supporting the club ? Surely you've got better things to do than follow, read and respond to my "bollox"...if not i'll await another witty insultive response
(to everybody else) I was'nt comparing Adamson to SBW (which is how everyone appear's to have taken my post) I am simply making a simple observation, which is he should start in our second row. It appear's most are split but the majority agree that Adamson is our first choice. My problem with Vinnie is his error count, he played 8 games less than Adamson last season yet made 20 errors compared to Adamson's 8, and in a game were possesion is king you cant afford to be making so many mistakes. Granted theres room for Adamson's attack to improve (which it already appears to under Long) but considering last season we had to defend nearly 1400 more tackles that Warrington (for obvious reasons) I'd rather have Adamson on the receiveing end than Vinnie.
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| Quote ="middleman"Over the years I've stood on the terraces of Knowsley Rd , Central Park, Wheldon Rd, Wilderspool, even Headingley etc and discussed the relative merits of ours or opposition Players, not always in agreement but always in good humour , it's one of the things that makes our sport what it is ...
thats why I find it disturbing that an element of our own supporters cannot enter into debate on this forum without resorting to insulting each another because they have a difference of opinion.
Being a Salford fan we rarely buy or develop ' perfect ' Rugby players , and we don't have to look hard to find fault in all of them.
however that doesn't mean we cannot praise part of their game without copping for an avalanche or crticism or abuse.
lighten up !'"
Exaclty..but the likes of DI are only posting to gauge some sort of argumentative response, why I dont know. Probably because they lack social engagement in their personal lives, but mention you prefer Adamson over Anderson and you and the said player will be insulted from head to toe. The likes of DI dont realise they see this person for 80 minutes a week, and in that time people like DI focus soley on there negative down falls. Me on other hand will clap and applaud if that palyer does somthing worth clapping for.
When I said "you need to watch the game a little closer" what I should have said is. "you need watch the game in a different light"
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| Not related to the line up for Saturday but just thought I'd announce our first referee for the season..... Ref T Alibert and the video ref is P Bentham, just thought you'd like to know, that's all.
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| Quote ="Lyrad Red" The likes of DI dont realise they see this person for 80 minutes a week, and in that time people like DI focus soley on there negative down falls.
When I said "you need to watch the game a little closer" what I should have said is. "you need watch the game in a different light"'"
Firstly i don't just soley point out the negative down falls. If you read my previous post's on another thread regarding the much improved Feka and the re-vitalised Anderson. Does that sound negative. (urrrm NO). Secondly i've always gave credit when due. I've also played with and witnessed watching Salford much better forwards than Adamson he is sooo predictable.GREEN AS GRASS comes to mind. Parish was no mug he saw the GREEN and wanted rid, and yeah you're right i do only see 80 mins a week of Adamson and god you can't fail to observe his negative downfalls. The light you're watching from is a GREEN shaded colour with a red tint my friend or is it Adamson is a family member hence your Bias.......
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| Quote ="Lyrad Red"Once again your here spouting nonsense about somthing you didnt witness... Which was, Adamson's much improved performance on last season. RE your view that all good players are at "big club's" then how to you explain Mr Chase's (Man o Steel!) long term commitment to the mighty Tiger's - .'"
Rangi Chase plays for Castleford NOT Salford. A bigger, better supported club than our's. Castleford are top 8 contenders thats why. I didn't say good players play for bigger clubs, i said Salford's good young prospect's always move on to better things O'connor, McAvoy, Turner, Myler, Rachford FACT........ Can't see the queue for Adamson can you.......
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| Yup that's my team bang on! Agree with Jaymc. Thought ashtray was very impressive in pre season and we didn't sign mcphearson to sit on the bench. Think Anderson has looked a different player this year and just edges it over adamsOn who I also think has looked good but the v man adds a bit more pace and attacking flair, just pray to god no Gibson!
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| Can I just clarify that ashtray did not look good in pre season however thought ashurst did! And very mobile with good off load, think he can be the damaging wide running second row we have missed
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| I think jaymc has got it right too. That looks just about our strongest team unless Sidlow can up his game and displace one of the props
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| I personally think it's dangerous not to have Nero on the bench as he can slot into the back row or the centres should he be needed. For me that's why players of his type are invaluable.
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| Good point MR. In fact I'd have Nero on instead of Gleeson, much better in defence
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| Although the more I think about it, the more I think Dante, Lance and Mitie are right. Our team is (except for the wingers and the two most improved forwards) completely and utterly e and so I think our team v castleford should be
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Director of Football - Mitie Mouse
Chief Executive - Lance Todd (no, not the joker from the 1930s, the real one what posts on here)
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| wouldn't have nero near the team. I really have not been impressed with him one bit, very lazy and just seems to be here for his last paycheck
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| Quote ="KMT"wouldn't have nero near the team. I really have not been impressed with him one bit, very lazy and just seems to be here for his last paycheck'"
Really?
Thought last season he was one of the few who could hold his head high.
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| Personally i think its difficult to work out who had a stand out season and who just went with the flow last season after the unrest that went on last year. Im hoping now the dust has finally settled , the likes of Adamson , Sidlow, Jewitt etc will be able to show their full pottential with PV and SL settling the ship. We all know Mcrae took us back years with his attitude , lets hope for the improvement every week that PV is aiming for.
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