Not a great deal you can do though. You can't go around restricting where players can go as it's unreasonable and unethical. Turner has been good this year and I don't think its too much of a surprise that his performances, although not bad, have dipped over the last few weeks.

Off-field shenanigans have a way of manifesting themselves in players performances.

I don't have any problem with Turner going, it's his career and a short one at that. I do feel slightly underwhelmed by the Club in not targeting our young talent as the bedrock of our Clubs future. I realise we don't have the finances like other Clubs, but the biggest deals should be going to long-term prospects that will keep the Club heading in the right direction.

It kinda highlights the huge gamble in paying big money for overseas players that rarely perform to the price tag. Taking up valuable resources that could be aimed at keeping other Superleague wolves from the door.

If he signs for Hull and then moves at the end of the season... as long as he puts it in this season I'll wish him luck.

What position does he play?

Centre / stand-off / Loose forward and is quite a decent goal kicker.

i hope he turns down the offer of playing away from the willows and continues to development here, remember Tim Hartley had the world at his feet at the willows and went to "further his career" at Quinns?, probably now a train driver or somthing now.

If he stays and continues to develop he will be world class in 3 years time, move to Hull they wont give him the time to develop and just ship in a big money Ozzie replacement if he doesnt set the world on fire.

Any players who do leave or set up a transfer before the season finished should be paid up on their contract released early (but not given permisison to play until next season) to allow us to give others players a chance at this level.
To keep any player in our team who isnt going to be here next season would be suicidal as Salford city reds would not benefit from their development in any way shape or form.

No relegation now, so no worries.

Yeah, but we've got pi[size=9.[/sizess poor crowds and no money either.

isn't Hartley playing in Championship, Halifax?

He's still with Widnes Vikings....

My point still stands, if he had stayed with us who knows how good he would have been, instead he took a massive gamble imo joining a side who is was on par with us at the best of times and slid into the 2nd Division.
Garen Casey was another example i think when he joined us from wakefield he was a wonderchild, kicking goals for fun, making tries, joined us and went down the pan.

Seriously how many players have left salford and gone on to better things? to play at a higher level consistanly Oconnor, Naylor, Mcavoy? thats about it.
I Dont think Huddesfield. wakefield and Bradford with the likes of Hodgson, Robinson, finnigan and Korki ect should be seen as a step up from us, they are the same imo at this level, Coley at wigan might be the exception to the rule but its only because of the name he joined, and he's a bit part player.

Playing for salford should be seen as a pinicle of any career for many thats why its important performances should show that, think many players dont realise until its gone how good it was. Even the likes of Hull and Wire after all the spin and marketing they are the same as us (apart from Hull winning the challenge cup recently)

Should be a lession to anyone thinking about leaving any club now there is no relegation, if you want to improve and further your career at the very top level (ie Leeds, Saints) make sure you get the same kind of game time, if you have a guarentee you'll play every week for your whole contract (which you will have at salford becase your that good).

You absolutely sure it's not Tansey?????

Unfortunately it's all about coin and we can't really begrudge players moving on to earn a higher wage. While I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, as a fan it would make me feel a bit better if we at least heard something from the club to indicate that we're actually fighting to keep these players as it just seems like we're lying down and letting people move on.

What annoys me is that should these players go, the franchise system is obviously not working the way it was supposed to when it was brought in. It was supposed to promote a level playing field and promote youth development across the board at all clubs. Instead it will be shown as being a case of same old with getting out your cheque book being the best way of getting quality youngsters rather than actually developing it yourself (not the case with all clubs might I add).

I understand and agree with your point.

However, one thing to consider...

It's the first season of the franchise mode and we are a newly "promoted" side that has been around for quite some time. (Meaning we are not a set-up, money made available, full-of Aussies Welsh team. No offence.) If we had performed the way the rest of League, pundits, Newspapers, Commentators etc said we would, nobody would be sniffing around our youngsters. Unfortunately, our youngsters have peaked early meaning that we don't have the advantage of them re-signing after a poor but inevitably dire season. (The season that everyone predicted) We don't yet have the financial clout to counter-offer other clubs yet as we still for all intents and purposes are operating this year as if it was just a regular promotion season.

I'm as disappointed as the next man to see our talent slowly stripped-away, but if you really think about it, we have become a victim of our own success to a certain degree.

We really can't win either way...

WHY can't we spend salary cap???

if u aint got the 1.6 million u cant spend it u can only spend what u have

Because we don't have sufficient cash flow to do it! Unless the crowds quadruple, the directors put their hands even deeper into their pockets or a couple of benificent supporters win the lottery then we never will have!!

do you not get about a million from sky?

So?

How long can we ask Wilko to bail out our dreams?

That means we can't be a big club in the future if we can get the crowds how are we going to get good players,

Its a stupid rule,u cant spend because of the crowds how are teams going to be good.

How can it be a stupid rule!?! Would you prefer the board to bankrupt themselves and the club hoping to get the odd extra hundred supporters coming throught the turnstiles. You obviously have no idea of what RL was like pre SL. If you did you would understand the positive impacts of rule.

Thats why we need a new stadium. No other way is there?

And then thats only if the expected extra thousands turn up, as we won't be getting any extra revenue from the site now that we don't own the stadium and projected retail site

Yes - we look to be solely depend on that now.

If we get good players that help the team win games everyonw will come, then the crowds will come

how are we going to be a big club in the future then if we cant sign quailty players because of this crowd rule stupid.

I have said it time and time again.
A stadium on its own will not bring the fans,you need a team that is succesful to bring those fans in.
This year is case in point, we get through to the quarter finals of the cup and all these fans suddenly turn up.
Other people are not like us who will turn up through thick and thicker.
Lose our best players and you can kiss goodbye to any hope of ever getting the crowds.