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| Quote ="tall red"Lets just give him a 2nd chance and see what happens, thin
gs cant get any worse can they'"
If what i heard was true he doesn't deserve another chance. Personnally i think the club shoul've come out with the truth regarding the incident so we all know the true extent of the reason to bin him as captain.
As for things not getting any worse a weak management system has just made the situation into a laughable farce.
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| maybe mcrae ,, has sanctioned this so you lot get on his back more ,,, maybe mr wilko has sanctioned it so mcrae jacks in ,without paying him compensation ... who knows either way its a strange decision ..... maybe malc alker after the coaching job as well ... all we know is malc been a stalwart for SALFORD MUGBY ......But what went on in florida was a disgrace ... and action had to be taken.... might as well bringing marlon into the 19 man squad as well
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| i am casting for a new comedy
"Carry on at the Willows"
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| Quote ="Bigpev"i am casting for a new comedy
"Carry on at the Willows"
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Given last weeks tackling we could cast Charles Hawtrey in a multitude of roles. Shame Trish has gone, there was a part that Hattie Jaques was born to play.
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| as a member of forever reds, that can't make the meetings, can i request someone to ask mr simms at the next meeting, 'WHY?'
why strip him of the captaincy?
why not sack him for what he did? (was it not worse than pulling a handbrake skid on the club carpark?)
WHY give him the captaincy back?
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| At a previous meeting, malc was told he wasnt guilty of the things you all think you know , maybe you do maybe you dont, and that lead to his reinstatment as club captain.
Dont get me wrong he aint entirley innocent, but the club decided that a loss of wages was enough punishment, the same as the other players involved.
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| Most concerning thing is he has never been a great hooker in super league and never will be, he should be one of the players gradually phased out over the next couple of years if we want to be a top 8 super league side.
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| Quote ="St.Bomber"Most concerning thing is he has never been a great hooker in super league and never will be, he should be one of the players gradually phased out over the next couple of years if we want to be a top 8 super league side.'"
And your point is ? so he aint a good hooker so should not be captain as malc is 30, think even he knows hes only got 1 more season left after this one, at the very most.
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| is there the slight possibilty that players have staged a 'protest' over the last 3 weeks and thus putting in far below par performances? could this be a reason to why Mal has been re-instated?
i think Mal was still the captain but without the armband, but you dont punish someone for something and then say, ok we re instate you.
is this a sign of players having their own way and therefore being 'bigger' than the club? would the club uplift the ban placed on the three banned from away matches? I DONT THINK SO.
FWIW i agree with the ban but was using that as an example
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Quote Following the conclusion of the investigation into events leading to the removal of the Salford City Reds captaincy from Malcolm Alker in January, Head Coach Shaun McRae has taken the decision to restore Alker to the role of Team Captain.'"
www.reds.co.uk
=redMOD - Please don't copy stories in full from other sites. It is a breach of copyright. This is the 4th time people have needed reminding of this this week!
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Quote Following the conclusion of the investigation into events leading to the removal of the Salford City Reds captaincy from Malcolm Alker in January, Head Coach Shaun McRae has taken the decision to restore Alker to the role of Team Captain.'"
www.reds.co.uk
=redMOD - Please don't copy stories in full from other sites. It is a breach of copyright. This is the 4th time people have needed reminding of this this week!
Sorry
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| My point is that you should build your team around the Captain and that he should not be in the side long enough for a quality team to be build up around him.
If we had recruited correctly at the start of the Season he should have been a bit part player, possibly playing back row by now, not our starting hooking leading our side around the pitch!
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| Quote ="tall red"At a previous meeting, malc was told he wasnt guilty of the things you all think you know , maybe you do maybe you dont, and that lead to his reinstatment as club captain.
Dont get me wrong he aint entirley innocent, but the club decided that a loss of wages was enough punishment, the same as the other players involved.'"
It doesn't matter what we know or what we don't know, the club knew what went on and decided to take the action it did, this U-turn shows the club in a ridiculously bad light, as indecisive and weak.
Having said that we the supporters have no choice but to accept the change and continue to support the club.
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| It is a sad day for our great club, I have nothing against Alker but today decision confirms player power rules.
Now we might see the reverse with the other camp not wanting to play for the club?
You cannot make such a major decision at the beginning of the season to strip Mal Alker of the captaincy only to reinstate him 5 games in, what a short sighted decision, week management springs to mind.
I would have thought Parker will have told the club I am sorry but I am not being the fall guy, find another captain.
Finally I will be there tomorrow not because I am looking forward to the game but we all need to rally around the club before we really end up a laughing stock in Super league.
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| i dont see a u turn, there was an on going enquiry so no captaincy whilst it was being done and now he has no case to answer then he is reinstated.
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| Quote ="redgunner".laughing stock '"
That is exactley what we are after todays announcement.
I have been really peed off so far this season the results on the field have been bad but the off field events have been far worse.
The whole Alker saga , the aparrent abuse of Rob Parker, , idiots in the crowd at Cas etc
Despite the above I will be at Saints tomorrow , the team owe us a decent peformance,( wether we get one is another matter ).
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| handled himself with great dignity. have I missed something?
why then has he gone bleating to the press.bloody joke
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| maybe we should play the music from the Benny Hill show,.............you know the one where they all run along in a line ,when the team come out ,lead by the "captain"
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| who says he's gone to the press as has previously said on here things dont always get reported as players ,coaches etc say it, the press have probably approached him from whats been going on/said on here.
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| well then he should have kept his mouth shut
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| what like you.
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| oops sorry,is it only the select few who can have an opinion on this site.
Not being one of the chosen few,and not believing the drivel being fed to us by the club this season I will sit back and just nod in agreement and bow to your superior knowledge
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| Quote ="beezer"i dont see a u turn, there was an on going enquiry so no captaincy whilst it was being done and now he has no case to answer then he is reinstated.'"
Thats what i was gonna say
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| who are the chosen few you so eliquently refer too.
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| What about in front of the fans at Widnes & at other games this season, making it clear he was the real captain pointing to where is arm band used to be, trying to whip support up with the fans, don't make me laugh, Alker as milked it & Alker as won it, player power rules.
One final point it is really funny how today it is being said that the captaincy was only temp, Have I missed something did the club really say that when they appointed Rob fall guy Parker he was only temporarily in charge.
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| If that 'on going investigation' nonsense was to hold any water he would have kept the captaincy until proven otherwise, same goes for the fine. And like the investigation would have taken this long. They know what happened, took the right decision and have now bottled it due to the gash start to the season. Alker has kept the issue alive via his mates on this message board and through constant articles in the press. Take about eloquence they must think some of us were born yesterday.
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