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| I think it was that young lad from Leeds - Centre/Second Row.
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| That's the one - Brad England.
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| They all left / were known to be leaving weeks, even months ago. The club will have been busy lining up their replacements, no fear.
This next period in the club's history is for me, make or break. Despite the recent issues, if, with the current Australian head coach on board (and I still can't quite believe that he is here) and an owner so wealthy that he can afford to write off Hansen's and Chase's contracts in one fell swoop, we can't get our recruitment right, we may as well all give up and go home.
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| 12 players is far too much but I think we have to take the pain of past mistakes now and carefully build a squad for the future that Sheens knows can do a job for us.
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"They all left / were known to be leaving weeks, even months ago. The club will have been busy lining up their replacements, no fear.
This next period in the club's history is for me, make or break. Despite the recent issues, if, with the current Australian head coach on board (and I still can't quite believe that he is here) and an owner so wealthy that he can afford to write off Hansen's and Chase's contracts in one fell swoop, we can't get our recruitment right, we may as well all give up and go home.'"
Hats off to Sheens for being so bold. I remember when Fergie got shut of Whiteside and McGrath at United and everyone thought he'd lost his marbles. They weren't the right players to have around the club and history proved he made the right call.
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| The 5 youngsters being promoted impacts less on recruitment, bringing in such high numbers each season so far means that we are starting from scratch, the best teams tinker rather than make whole sale changes.
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| The best teams only need to tinker.
I'm not saying making wholesale changes will work, it's obviously failed us twice in the past 2 years. We're not in a position where changing just a couple of players around is going to get us anywhere near where we want to be though.
That and the fact that almost all of the players that are gone/going have been pretty much forced anyway.
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| We have to trust Tim Sheens on this. He may not get it right in 100% of the cases, but he is the most knowledgeable, well respected, experienced coach in the game today. The last time we had a marked improvement in playing performances was when Harrison led us to the playoffs - I don't remember there being too many big time Charlies in that team. Every other attempt to improve the club since has failed. If Sheens says get rid, we get rid. He is exactly the no-nonsense, disciplined, professional we have been crying out for.
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| Just read that Monaghan is undecided which Super League team he will join, if we are one and he is undecided I'd suggest that means his heart won't be in it, hope to God Salford say no.
Much rather Carney comes in and we have BJB, Johnson, MCB and him as the wing options.
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| I'd hope we're not looking at Monaghan anyway, despite rumours that he may be coming here. He's been a brilliant player but looks like far past his best now.
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| Quote ="andyh0064"I'd hope we're not looking at Monaghan anyway, despite rumours that he may be coming here. He's been a brilliant player but looks like far past his best now.'"
Totally agree. He would of been a very decent signing about 4-5 years ago. Let's hope the days of signing other clubs aged cast-offs are a thing of the past.
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| To my reckoning we have a squad of 21 currently at the moment that being;
Evalds
BJB
Josh Griffin
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So bring in another 8/9 we have a sizeable squad!
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| Quote ="theredshed"Totally agree. He would of been a very decent signing about 4-5 years ago. Let's hope the days of signing other clubs aged cast-offs are a thing of the past.'"
I agree to an extent.
But any Club signing anyone is signing that Clubs cast-offs, surely?
You bring a negative conatation to the term, after all, Scott Taylor was a Wigan cast-off.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I agree to an extent.
But any Club signing anyone is signing that Clubs cast-offs, surely?
You bring a negative conatation to the term, after all, Scott Taylor was a Wigan cast-off.'"
Did you miss the aged bit?
(I'm not being sarcastic).
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| Sa'u, Griffin and Carney is like having 3 extra forwards in the pitch, God for a Gleeson of 10 years type centre outside Carney.
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| I seriously doubt Warrington are letting Monaghan go without knowing his best days are behind him.
I'd much rather find a younger winger we can help develop rather than one who's going to throw less and less good games from now on.
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| Do we even need wingers?
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| Quote ="andyh0064"Did you miss the aged bit?
(I'm not being sarcastic).'"
Yes I did.
Fingers got in before brain.
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| Quote ="theredshed"Hats off to Sheens for being so bold. I remember when Fergie got shut of Whiteside and McGrath at United and everyone thought he'd lost his marbles. They weren't the right players to have around the club and history proved he made the right call.'"
He made the wrong call,with a few others.
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| Joel Monaghan is not to be sniffed at, his try scoring rate is pretty much 1 in 1. We're also losing a fair chunk of experience in Hansen, Chase, Paterson, Maitua, Morley etc and therefore a character like Joel could be invaluable.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Joel Monaghan is not to be sniffed at, his try scoring rate is pretty much 1 in 1. We're also losing a fair chunk of experience in Hansen, Chase, Paterson, Maitua, Morley etc and therefore a character like Joel could be invaluable.'"
Disagree, would be terribly unimpressed if we signed him. Bringing in a high quality centre for me would be a much higher priority.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Disagree, would be terribly unimpressed if we signed him. Bringing in a high quality centre for me would be a much higher priority.'"
No offence, but if he does sign I'll take Sheens opinion overs MR. No doubt you'll want to convert this high quality centre into a loose-forward at some point next season too?
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| If we sign him and Carney they can start up the first Dog and Wife watching service in the area
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| Aside from so much negative gossip surrounding the club these past few months, the clubs recruitment drive for 2016 must also be seriously hampered with Tim Sheens future at the club unconfirmed. I read it will be November before the ARL make the decision to extend his role or decline to offer him a new contract. With so many players leaving and no new signings confirmed I just hope we have it covered and aren't leaving it too late? Another major concern I have is the well publicised stories of our clubs fall out with several agents and this can't be helping the cause either.
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| There can’t be many British clubs that claim to have had both the Golden Boot winner and the incumbent Australia coach on their staff at any one time.
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