To be honest, I'm not sure either. I guess Hock would have had some sort of payoff.

allow me. There are several factors that won't be public knowledge, which means that there's a lot of educated guess work. These are:

1) whether hock took a payoff to walk away from his contract, or, koukash had behavoiur clauses in his contract which gave him grounds to terminate (aka he was sacked)
2) how hocks contract was structured and how this related to his cap value (earnings is not what the cap value is) and how any payoff would compare to his cap value.

The SC has protocols in place to allow clubs to have the option to terminate contracts and protect them from players being irreplaceable - however it is a case by case basis (to stop clubs abusing the rule I guess). If hock was pushed rather than jumped, then Salford have grounds for any layoff costs be counted outside of the cap:



Meaning that the rfl will write off the termination payoff and Salford will be free to replace his cap value without breaking the SC rules.

However, if they refuse this, (I'm not sure on what grounds, usually they are only refused if the team has been proved to have been in the wrong iirc, so Hock would have to take it to tribunal) or Hock jumped and just took a payoff, then that will be put into the cap calculations.

The simplest (but probably least likely) option is Hock was paid a base salary only, took the rest of the years pay, and walked away from the 2 years after this year he had left iirc. This would be counted on the cap and be equivalent of Hock leaving for free at the end of the year.

More likely, Hock will have bonuses built into his contract, appearances bonus etc, which will affect his cap value. If he accepts his base pay as payoff, then Salford will free up the difference between his cap value and his base value.

In the unlikely event that the payoff includes the remaining years he had left, and the payoff is higher than his cap space for this year, Salford will (probably) be given the option to either take the hit if they still have the space to accommodate the extra cap, or spread the increased cap size between years up to the length of the contract hock would of had, meaning he would count on next years cap for whatever value he was paid/2 etc.

... I think!

Hope I've made some kind of sense

Thanks for the explanation.

Hock signing for Leigh tomorrow according to the Daily Star. It says, Leigh believe they have what it takes to tame him. I'm not sure how this comment will be taken by Mr Harris, Mr Betts, Mr McNamara and a couple of former Wigan coaches?

Doc says he spent ten days trying to keep him at Salford , them mid eights will be an interesting place

Will Leigh make the mid eights after the salary cap points deduction?

Why was he so keen to leave though? What is the problem at the club that is making him unhappy and willing to drop down a division?

Harris.

It does seem a bit odd. Perhaps he just wants a fresh start at a new club. Too much water under the bridge at Salford?

Says who? I find it highly doubtful, when you consider following the Saints game Gareth Hock was told not to bother turning up for training.

Mid eights wont be interesting at all, all the current Super League teams will remain in Super League.

Makes me laugh that people are trying to figure out what Hocks thought process is to drop down a division.

I think there are much better qualified people with long black couches who couldn't figure Hock out.

Deeply flawed, brilliant but deeply flawed.

His thought process is simple, he has no choice. When he was transfer requested at the back end of last season, nobody was interested. It forced to come back to Salford with his tail between his legs. This time around he knows the Championship is his only possible move and Leigh is conveniently located for him. They'll also no doubt pay him a handsome wage too.

I just had a look on the Leigh board and they cant wait to sign 'another world class' player apparently.

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I can't say I dislike Leigh as a club and I think Paul Rowley has done a decent job. However, I am starting to feel a little nauseated by the amount of smoke that is being blown up people's ar$e$ there at the moment.

Marwan Koukash on Boots and All

I just have a hunch that MK has been very shrewd here and there is another deal in place - maybe at the end of the campaign or whenever.

Hocks wages will be £10k+ pm and Leigh - with Moi Moi and a few other high earners must be near the SC limit.

Just wondering who is going to pay Hocks wages.

If I were Paul Rowley it would be 2.5k per game..

LOL dont be like that,just think back to what this forum was like just before koukash walked through the door and what it was like in the days and weeks immediately after

Take it as a left handed compliment.

without starting a fight they sound kinda like you guys did when you signed him. going on about how a fresh start will help, new coach, being in a "winning" team (their words not mine)

i think he will be banned within a month o playing for them. really hope hes on pay as you go type thing, other wise he will be a liability, as you guys fond out.

one of the best 2nd rowers in the world when he wants too.... so infuriating

It was a general comment about the giddy atmosphere around the Leigh club over the past few months. The sun is shining brightly down at LSV and everybody's wonderful or world class there at the moment. (In the eyes of the Leythers) Good luck to them. It wasn't a reaction to them signing Hock.

Pot and kettle maybe.

Well said Marshy...'feel good factor' at Leigh, right now....albeit in the championship.

I'd take some of that feel good factor over the immanent doom of another Salford early collapse at the moment.

Sorry you have completely lost me, what is 'feel good factor' ?