We can't afford a new coach, let alone somone like Cartwright

What he said,

For me it is not just about last night. It is McRae's whole reign. It has been totally uninspiring. We were heading for the drop when he took over but if anything got worse. Ok, the following year we won the National League and the NR Cup but can you say it was memorable(save the Grand Final). Think back we were boring to watch and got out of a few scrapes due to our full time fitness levels. There were many games when the team was booed off and many games where the opposition played much better rugby than us. Last season was hit and miss but was centred primarily around one golden period when Myler and Ratchford were inspirational. The start and end of seasons were a damp squib. Throughout McRae's reign it has been the same- one man rugby, poor kicking game, not moving up in defence. handling errors galore. etc etc. We have heard much pre-season about how the team has trained the house down, spirit is good etc and how there has been much emphasis on core skills. In the first two games there has been little evidence of this and let's be honest we have been beaten in both games quite comfortably with something to spare.

Yes for me he lacks ideas, motivation and is clueless how to play expansive rugby.

We are !!!!!!!!!!!!!

He did say last season the players were not good enough to play the open expansive rugby we the fans want to see, well if we doesn't give them a chance then how does he know.

The lad that I generally go with to home games brought a friend from work to his 3rd game and for a casual observer of rL he hit the nail on the head straight away, he suggest that the players we had looked to have the skill levels but seemed to be lacking in motivation.

I've never witnessed such an innept performance from the first home game, the players seemed to wander aimlessly round the park and Cashmere aside our forwards looked shockingly small.

A little aside i'd be willing to bet that Houldsworth doesnt stay the season as he looked dedjected on Friday and he does appear to have no little talent a bigger club I would reckon will come for him.

Not that I'm defending the team performance, and definitely not McRae, but personally I thought Leuluai and Boyle gave us more go forward than Cashmere and Parker.

On topic, I was pleased when McRae first signed, but that image of him sat in the stands looking clueless when we lost to Hull KR just after he first took over still haunts me. It now to typifies his time in charge.

The big question for me is why do our coaches keep losing the dressing room?

Over the last 10 years the main constant is A L K E R. I keep saying it, but he does seem to think he's bigger than the club.

To be honest I don't rate McRae. I was at Wembley in 1996 and at the end of the game thought to myself "This fella cannot believe his luck". He got a team that was just about to reach its peak and should have gone on from there as the great Wigan team was just about to go into decline and there was nobody, except Bradford about. I lost count of the number of times that season Saints got "lucky" wins. Warrington, Castleford, Halifax, London (twice) and but for Terry Matterson landing a last minute conversion at Wigan for London we would not have won the league.

However within 12 months, just after another Wembley win the wheels well and truly came off the wagon and he was exposed for what he is.

One hell of a nice fella, personality wise, however as a coach talks a good game but cannot practice what he preaches.

Yes.

yes - how are we expected to attract new fans to pay £18 a game to watch games like on friday night if this club is to move forward something needs to change

Who is in the coaching 'pool' at moment.

Cullen possibly?

I've got so much to say about Mcrae but said it all before. I think John Cartwright is just what we need but PLEASE GET HIM OUT

Despite JC's brief history with the club I would find it hard to see him coming to Salford, let's face it the club isnt exactly marketable to the calibre of coach JC is.

I can see the scenario now JC gets offered the job and makes a brief call to Houldsworth to get an unbiased oppinion and he gets informed that the crowd boo the players of the park at the end of the first home game of the season.

Salford will be seen as a possible poison chalice to potential coaches.

A club that can't grow its fanbase, less talent on the pitch, SL Whipping boys atm, unable to tempt "big" signings, a franchise that's in serious doubt atm, fans that are quick to abuse the on and off-field staff, lack of meaningful finance, behind the scenes staff that never seem to do much right, A stadium that's always just around the corner...etc etc

You can see why world-class coaches would be begging to take the reigns if we boot SMc.

Two games into the season and half the Salford fans are shocked that we are in this position?
Anyone truly shocked needs to get a grip. Judgement should be passed at least until the SL table has calmed down after 6 or 7 games or so.

The problem with this defeat is Crusaders at home is the best "banker" we have

It isn't that we lost a game to our nearest rivals, rather the manner of the defeat.

we have a coach who for whatever reason failed to make any tactical changes or adapt. Noble is well known for his game plan and that's what we got.

Going back to Karl isn't the answer as he lacked something in the attack tactics.

John Cartwright has a good NRL position now and I don't see why he would consider Salford (he put in for the job previously)

We needa John kerr type of coach who can do well with little money and get the team pulling the same direction.

I have to ask questions of our senior players if they are refusing to play for McRae like they ahve done under previous coaches. If you don't want to play for the club, go elsewhere. It is OUR club you are ruining

If you battered at Leeds next weekend do you think McRae will resign?
I'm talking 70+
Leeds are fuming after losing to Wakey and will be wanting a big win before they take on Melbourne.

ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON.

YES, WITHOUT A DOUBT. ITS NOT THE FACT THAT WE LOST, ITS THE WAY WE LOST......

PLAYERS ARE NOT BEING GIVEN ANY DIRECTION................. AS GOOD AS I THINK DANIEL HOLDSWORTH IS, HE IS NOT A FORWARD, HE IS A HALF BACK, AND WE LACKED THE GO FORWARD AGAINST CRUSADERS BECAUSE SWAINY IS NOT PLAYING LOOSE, HOLDSWORTH NEEDS TO PAIR UP WITH STEPH & PUT MATTY SMITH ON THE BENCH TO ALTERNATE WITH MALC AT 9, AND McCRAE NEEDS TO GROW A PAIR AND LEAVE OUT JEREMY SMITH........................ OH AND GET JOHN KEAR.........HE SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We turned down John Cartwright?

Was this when we signed McRae

I can't remember whether it was when McRae was given the job or karl.

I was just impressed that John held the club in such high regard.

Therein lies the problem Money, no money for player recruitment, you have sold arguably your best player, I doubt McRae would have sold Myler if he had a say in it. How much longer can you keep hold of Rachford?. Who in their right mind would take on the coaching job with both hands tied behind his back, having said that under the circumstances which coach could do a better job. All the sides that have recruited this season have improved their playing staff except for the reds, I am sure that McRae is as frustrated as the fans, give him a level playing field and maybe he could compete with the rest, until that happens unfortunately you will struggle I am sorry to say.

IT WAS JUST BEFORE KARL GOT IT. I DONT THINK JC HAD COACHED A CLUB AT THAT TIME AND WAS BIT OF AN UNKNOWN ON THE COACHING FRONT. WOULD HAVE HIM AS NEXT SALFORD COACH TOMORROW IF MONEY ALLOWED IT

We sold after Mylers head was turned by the then England coach, after he came back from the England camp he did not want to play for Salford so we could not keep hold of him, some clubs have rich sugar daddies and good accountants and even with the salary cap the playing fields will not be level.