Would very much hope that the club now do the honorable thing and make a full public statement.

I'm still of the opinion that investment is being sorted but do think that fans nerves, anger and in some cases stupidity need to be addressed and allayed if there is some level of disclosure as to what exactly is happening.

I'd hope that the club go public with this directly rather than letting some incompetent hack from the MEN get the story and make a hash of the facts.

Bradford fans were told the same year after year.. we asked at our fans forum before the 2012 season if we were in trouble & were told financially we were good.

We held our fans meeting at a local hotel, who gave us the room for free providing we had at least 25 in attendance.. nearly 1000 of us packed into the room that night and local press were invited. Three of our fans set up the meeting and using social networking spread the news that a meeting would be held.

Unfortunately we were already in the hands of administrators at this point but because so many fans were there & the press were there it was the first time we had questions answered openly and honestly.

Im not sure a petition as such is the way forward, but meetings worked for us. Fans need to stick together and see what they can do to help.. Most of all though try and keep an open mind, our previous board lied through their teeth and ended up with £500,000 of our hard earned cash. Donating money IMO isnt the way forward unless you know the true extent of the problem.

I hope it doesnt get to the point where you'd need to do any of the above... but if you did, im sure Bradford fans would offer advice and let you know what we went through.

big problem with Peel Holdings, they don't need the council anymore, they have just got the nod on the Barton power station despite Trafford Council saying no and a massive public against campaign, Big Government says yes.

Barton power station? thought it was a rail/port complex? Let's face it between us and the new Irlam A57 bypass there nothing much other than Macro and Boysnope GC, the entire area could be redeveloped and think it would be a boom for the area and provide much needed employment. The required improvement to the road and rail links in the area would also be a much needed improvement on what currently hinders the stadium.

I've never claimed to be much more than a casual fan. I attend most home games and a couple away each season. The fact I'm capable of thinking for myself, not just mindlessly swearing at the internet, does seem to set me apart here sometimes.

We have some fantastic supporters, no doubt. But I couldn't read the bit I quoted earlier on here without laughing.
All I've gleamed from this particular forum, and increasingly the Facebook site is that we're also a miserable heap of whinging, lazy, unhinged, blame-throwing, feckless turncoats.


But I must be an employee at the club. That's the only plausible excuse for having a contrary opinion to others on here.


They've managed it better than you, or anyone else for that matter. I don't know how easy or difficult it is to run a RL club with the club's paltry finances, so I'm not best positioned to criticise. Appears to me though, they've managed it better than Swinton, Oldham, Gateshead, Halifax, Workington, Paris, Sheffield, Widnes, Wakefield, Bradford and more.

Agree with the setiment of this petition, the silence is deafening from Salford.

As for the other comments about the apathy amongst Salford supporters, this is undoubtedly true but people are overlooking the underlying reasons for this and talking as if it's some inbuilt Salfordian thing that has always been there. This is not the case.

A total breakdown of trust has occured between the supporters and Salford over a number of years meaning it has become incredibly difficult to retain existing fans, let alone attract the new ones we desperately need. Probably starting with the relegation of 2007, the turgid McRae years which followed that cost us dearly in so many ways, and continuing into what at best could be described as the 'difficulties' of the move to Barton and the groundshare with Sale and all that has entailed have all added to the growing frustration of supporters. In all honesty, it has been a terrible five years with few highlights. Probably, the worst 5 year period since the early '80s. The lean years from the 80s to 2007 were always broken up with some real highlights that kept fans 'believing' to borrow a phrase from The Optimist. 'Proper' promotions, Lancashire Cup Finals, beating Wigan in the cup, getting into Super League, the 'good season' under Harrison when it looked as if we were going places kept fans onside, if not happy.

All the things I've mentioned added to the off field performance of the club, the poorness of which was somewhat ignored at The Wilows but has been starkly brought to the fore since we moved to Barton has added to people's apathy. No communication, promises that are never kept, constant excuses for everything that goes wrong, players/coaches in open revolt at the way the club is run, Dave Tarry treating any suggestions by fans for improving the club with outright hostility amongst many, many other things have left even the most hardened fans disillusioned.

Contrast this with Castleford last week, they call a grown-up meeting with the fans to say we are in trouble and we need to work together to get through this. 600 people rocked up and probably left worried but more supportive of their club than ever. Castleford, Wakefield, Bradford Northern will all still be here in 10 years because they feel part of their clubs, are valued and work to support and improve it. We might not be here in 10 days the way things are going. This current Salford problem is seemingly so far down the track all we can do now is wait to see how things pan out. We have been kept largely in the dark barring a few hollow words from Wilky in his programme notes and at the presentation night. Much of what has been discussed is taken from rumours, whispers and Neil Barker!

I don't want this appear to be a Loyal Fan style tearjerking post and I'm not suggesting I want hugs off the directors everytime I walk past them, far from it, in fact I'd happily sacrifice the thousands of times I (and thousands of others) have been gladhanded by Wilky for the thought that the club is making the most of its scant resources, is well lead and is valuing the fans we can't afford to lose. Many of the people being bored by this post, will be watching Salford until they are dead (if the club outlives them) but there are many others who won't and we can't afford to lose many more of them if we are to make it through this current crisis and beyond.

The club need to say something, anything about what is happening at present.

Thanks for the reply, Hands up many of,my previous posts have been submitted over a period of time when I haven't been of sound mind and naively been shooting from the hip due to personal experiences of working for a club I have supported all my life. Sometimes when I read your replies you appear to come across as an antagonist . I know and understand we have a certain element of numpties supporting us but the one common denominator is we ALL want Salford RLFC to thrive and prosper .

David Tarry in his 27 year tenure must shoulder a lot of the blame for some appealing managerial decisions , as must John Wilkinson and Steve Simms. We have ambled through our Super League journey . Maybe ,we quite simply are not Good enough On or Off the field to take a place in the elite league.

In regards to the 3000 Mugs comment, that was play on words due to it being an unofficial nickname for our band of followers in the 1930's.

Anybody that knows me outside of this forum should know that my passion for this club is honest and true. Sometimes it can be misconstrued as arrogance and a lot of the time I may come across as Bi Polar but that is what supporting this club has reduced me too

To be perfectly honest, unless you are privy to the ins and outs behind the scenes at our Club, coming on a forum or FB making assumptions and generally knee-jerking all over the place is just pointless. I don't know the goings-on behind the scenes so what I think would be just a guess at best. No point in me jumping to a conclusion based on 10% of the information.

Talk of supporters meetings/voices/petitions etc etc just seems a little bit like jumping the gun a little. Wait for more information before venting your spleens.

The only thing I think we need atm is communication between Club and fans. Very much what GT says above.

Cheers Walshy!

Well there's two season tickets for next year



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I couldn't agree more, I think in the main we are all infected with the disease that is Salford City Reds, think most of us to varying degrees would give our right arm to to have fully functioning and thriving club but think we ALL deserve the club to just come out and say what the current situation is, are we getting the new investment and above all are we in danger of not commencing the 2013 season.

Clarification from the club at this point could well dictate the following the club has next season and as a result the revenue stream the club is so desperate for to make ends meet.

Think Walshy sums up the feelings of the average fan.

When we were relegated the cahirman spoke to a small number of fans telling them exactly where the club was and how much money was needed. This led to a meeting in the Willows Restaurant and the setting up of Forever Reds.

Over the last 10 years the relationship has changed, maybe the chairman has had enough proping up the club. Maybe fans want more in this "instant age "of facebook and twitter.

We can all think of things the club could do better and recruitment off field is as important as on field. Look at the positions at the club, how many are family and friends ratyher than the best for the job?

This is the first time in I don't know how many years we are seriously considering not buying our season tickets.

As much as I'd like to take the credit for such a good post, it was Walshy, not me!

Apologies. Walshy was the one I was quoting.

This is what the so called Dinosaurs have been after for the past eight years,come clean,you never know,we might actually want to help the club.But no,the management depend on FOOLS like you who believe everyword they care to spout out and take it as gospel.Never mind the knee jerking,take no notice of them idiots questioning Mr Salford,what the hell do they know?The fight starts now,not tomorrow,not next week,NOW. Yeah right Wilky,the fight starts in the courts next week mate to save OUR club not yours,OURS,the people who pay through the turnstiles,the people who buy the shirts who can hardly afford it,who follow the name not the team to away games,yeah mate,its not about you its about the City of Salford mate.

Well said I think if they spoke to fans more then they would not cause anger and frustration that is about. I for one would not be as angry and full of criticism if we were just kept ingots. We understand you can't tell us every thing but at end of day we pay to get in. To criticise fans on statement that come out I feel as though there making fans to blame for there rubbish management. They might have got there 8,000 fans if they listened to fans and played on Sunday and we might not be here now. Sorry this club is a joke and I won't be wasting money I ain't got that blames supporters for there mess. I have been going for 20 plus years and. Club don't give fans trust with anything and that's why they won't get any more money off me

Well said I think if they spoke to fans more then they would not cause anger and frustration that is about. I for one would not be as angry and full of criticism if we were just kept ingots. We understand you can't tell us every thing but at end of day we pay to get in. To criticise fans on statement that come out I feel as though there making fans to blame for there rubbish management. They might have got there 8,000 fans if they listened to fans and played on Sunday and we might not be here now. Sorry this club is a joke and I won't be wasting money I ain't got that blames supporters for there mess. I have been going for 20 plus years and. Club don't give fans trust with anything and that's why they won't get any more money off me

I agree that's been the clubs problem for a while engaging with fans and ignoring supporters or telling someone on Facebook saying negative comment on site like they threatened to kick someone off tonight because he is stating a point is disgraceful. Considering he buys a ticket every year the club is a take. I hope you get loads of signatures and stick it in there face. The club does not deserve loyal fans who care. How is petition going

Good luck in your fight to save your club and get questions answered. When Wakey were in a similar predicament we received no help from anyone. However the RFL have now set a precident with the help they gave Bradford. To remain impartial and fair they should now be stepping in to help you.

The club did not like what matt Parrish said so they got rid of him now they don't like the fans for speaking the truth I hope he tells them to stick the season ticket. The club don't give a crap as long as there taking your money. Everyone is expecting club to win but you don't file a winding up order at a cost without evidence. The problem is the club they brought them in to help finances and they action the company must have took would benefit the club but as normal the club trample all over everyone trying to help I hope fans boycott season tickets until the club learn to listen to supporters I won't ever go again now been ticket holder for 20 years I only fell out with club the way it treated matt parish. This club is total crap at listening and if I remember rightly they sold the club to Parrish and they lied to him. As far as I am concerned the club don't deserved. As for your club Wakefield I feel the RFl should have done more to help Wakefield but as small clubs don't matter to RFl and big clubs do the gap is getting wider between bottom and top when should have made an even competition. They ruined rugby league for me

Hi all, thank you for your replies , it's important that we all try to sing from the same hymn sheet. So far the petition has received 72 signatures , whilst this is no huge amount I still feel heartened by the fact enough people want answers. The comments on the petition so far are begging for the club to meet with its supporters and tell us the truth of our predicament. I wrote a piece about my feelings on this issues https://mscityredgirl.wordpress.com/201 ... -censored/ Now I understand some posters are of the opinion that Myself and others may be massively overreacting but when you start to piece the past 2 years together and the many errors made along the way it starts to look very suspicious indeed. I believe that the club is In such difficulty that the potential new "Investors" will be more inclined to allow the club to Fold then buy the club as a New Company, alas Bradford Bulls.

Hi all, thank you for your replies , it's important that we all try to sing from the same hymn sheet. So far the petition has received 72 signatures , whilst this is no huge amount I still feel heartened by the fact enough people want answers. The comments on the petition so far are begging for the club to meet with its supporters and tell us the truth of our predicament. I wrote a piece about my feelings on this issues https://mscityredgirl.wordpress.com/201 ... -censored/ Now I understand some posters are of the opinion that Myself and others may be massively overreacting but when you start to piece the past 2 years together and the many errors made along the way it starts to look very suspicious indeed. I believe that the club is In such difficulty that the potential new "Investors" will be more inclined to allow the club to Fold then buy the club as a New Company, alas Bradford Bulls.

The Parish appointment was never going to work due to the fact we didn't even do any homework on Parish he wasn't even on our short list , Gentle was our Man and all we needed to do was forward him the contract ,But in true Salford style we stuffed that up when a certain football director told blatant lies and our beloved board instead were on a sightseeing tour of Sydney.this was followed by a gentle mans agreement to return Gentles call ASAP, and once more Salford weren't professional enough to do this so Gentle told them where to stick it.
Parish was the emergency signing as somebody put his name in the frame and before you know it he's signed under the impression Salford were due major financial input and we were one of SuperLeagues model clubs.

Parish as a person was volatile and off the wall, challenging players and allegedly drinking every night and trying to socialise with players as a mate ,then turning on them when they didn't take up the offer to go on a booze crawl.

I do respect parish for telling Wilky and a simms to keep their nose out, and he did infact order that Wilky,Simms and Clague be locked out of the changing rooms. You can guess that this was the beginning of the end for Matt.

For too long Our club has been mismanaged and quite frankly been a PR disaster , Only saying what it wants and dismissing the supporters as unimportant ,even more so with The move to the "Iconic" stadium that we knew we couldn't afford but took a gamble that could ultimately signal the death of Salford RLFC as we know it.

Maybe he was trying to insert disapline to make the team more professional is that a crime. And would love to here how you know who was on short list are you there when they interviewed are club as always lacked disapline and just look over years we are never fully fit can't play for 80 mins and can't defend a disapline on players that I felt personally needed even the club. Or we will never challenge for anything. Matt parish was treated disgracefully in my eyes as he wanted the players to be more professional and for me we need someone like that if you want to be successful in sport. Problem is they did not like what he wanted to do. If its right that the club told him one thing and he saw what they said was wrong as a coach you ain't going to be happy if you took a job based on what club sells. They players a always here for a free ride there here to perform. So for me shows club had no ambition for change. And selling Marty smith when we still had a good chance of play off place shows the lack of ambition by the whole club.

Mate I liked Parish and his no sh*t approach but Respectable players were shocked at his unprofessional approach, Getting P*sses up on a nightly basis. That doesn't exactly command respect does it? He treated players with disrespect giving them the silent treatment . That to me isn't a sign of a good man manager. The supporters saw Parish as a breath of fresh air because he didn't pussy foot around the Chairman and Team performances but he wasn't the Saviour we were led to believe he was. The man that would if turned the whole attitude if the club around would of been John Kear, now he is a Fantastic coach and Man manager. The Sale of Smith was a clear indicator of impending Financial melt down, As was the premature termination if Pattens contract.
Some on here have accused DJ Holdsworth And Patten of being stirrers but it was as simple as them both venting their frustration with how we are run as a club.

Parrish also was shocked at how different Rugby league was here to what he was used to in Oz, the whole system and the lack of people and clubs in the area playing rugby league, so that opened his eyes quite a bit, he didn't have a 100 mile area to work in just a few square miles around Salford and parts of Manchester. His drinking was a problem, but the board should have seen that out in Oz as they met him in a bar, when we met him he also offered to have a chat over a drink any night of the week, he was like a pre-superleague coach, but he did open up our eyes to what was happening at the club, infact at the FR meeting he attended with Simms, it was quite funny watching Simms twitch as Parrish revealed more and more, and that I thing was the beginning of the end for Parrish.

Bigpey I personally agree with you regarding John kear where ever he as gone he as proved you don't have to be a good team to get a performance. I did not understand the choice to go to Australia and that was my preferred choice. Matt Parrish was a bit of a idiot at at times but in respect to that as a supporter we know the club as been like that for years. No will know the total truth with the decision why they got rid of Parrish but you can't say he did and was not afraid to tell it as it was. And for me that's what needs to change at this club or we won't challange for anything