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| Dave Tarry has just said on Radio Manchester that if Sale move in it won't have a direct financial benefit for Salford. The wording used would be that it wouldn't change the size of crowd we'd need to be able to spend what we want to spend (i.e the oft misquoted 8k) - so that doesn't sound to me as though we'll get a big reduction in our rental costs. He [ihopes[/i that it would indirectly lead to more money through bigger crowds from the venue being higher profile.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"So does anyone have any concrete news about anything? all we seem to have at the minuite is a rebutal from AH and a report in the MEN that has dramatically changed overnight.'"
As far as I can make out, the confirmed, definite, concrete things we confirmedly, definitely, concretely know are:
1) The club don't own the stadium.
2) Errr......
And then there's a load of speculation, partly based on a 'news' report written by that well known fountain of facts Neil Barker.
Why not wait and see what happens before filling our nappies in panic?
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| Quote ="GT"I have been led to believe that the club aren't exactly happy with the way in which the ground has been built, nor the final deal we've been cut. We've got no other option but to deal with it, though.
As for those suggesting that Wilky would only sell to Kennedy if he had Salford's best interests at heart... Well, firstly, didn't Wilky have talks with Kennedy a while back and end up not selling? What's changed between now and then? Secondly, talking to a Sale season ticket holder I know, there's plenty of speculation that Kennedy's trying to flog them to some Russians. I don't see where we'd fit into that, unless the Russians really are trying to crack the RL market now.
Their link-up with Stockport was meant to be for the greater good of both teams. Stockport are now at a much lower level than they were previously, no longer own their own ground and have looked at building a new one in order to survive in the future.
I'm not arguing with those that are suggesting our biggest threat is our own management - I think we're all aware that they have played a big part in us being in this position. But that's also a good reason to worry about Sale's intentions. Without a strong, well-run management behind the scenes then Sale will be able to do a lot more damage if they so wish.'"
Well at least we play in the right colour,for when the Russians come,I was at the ground today,and Tarry came past
in a big fur hat.
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| Quote ="Iain"Dave Tarry has just said on Radio Manchester that if Sale move in it won't have a direct financial benefit for Salford. The wording used would be that it wouldn't change the size of crowd we'd need to be able to spend what we want to spend (i.e the oft misquoted 8k) - so that doesn't sound to me as though we'll get a big reduction in our rental costs. He [ihopes[/i that it would indirectly lead to more money through bigger crowds from the venue being higher profile.'"
"Hope" isnt the a word thats filling me with confidence there, i want our chief execturve to use much more positve / stronger words when promoting our club in that situation.
The interesting bit in the manchester evening news is the meeting with John and howard clegg and the independant consultancy firm and the "restructing of the clubs management team" in my opinion if done correctly it could be the point our club is turned round for potentinal investors to invest in the future.
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| Sorry derail this slightly but just a little on the Russian, they've been playing RL for nearly 20 years, ok they may only have 6 domestic teams (which to be fair is more than most) and one of which is in the Ukraine, you just never know, they may buy Sale and then realise that they've bought into the wrong code....well we can pray
My thoughts on Sale are being prepared but just a quick one for now, 100% League 0% Union.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"G We would need a fan of London/Leeds to comment about how relations benefit/stagger development.
'" On this point Leeds isn't really a good comparison. They are two clubs under the same ultimate ownership but the RL side owns the ground - and one party is clearly dominant. The RU club [url=http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/exclusive_union_in_crisis_as_leeds_sink_2m_into_the_red_1_3327817isn't financially viable[/url but is propped up by the owner/cash from the Rhinos. The only negative that anyone ever really comments on is the pitch although if Leeds RLFC hadn't been winning things in recent years there would probably have been more interest in our fanbase amongst how much we financially support the RU club. As it is, no one cares.
Salford vs Sale OTOH would feel like two aspiring clubs going after the same markets of potential new fans/aiming to poach the other side's fans and with two sets of management no doubt very wary of, if not hostile to, each other.
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| Quote ="king of the shed" 100% League 0% Union. '"
as an aside...anyone wanting one of those famous 100% League, 0% Union car stickers let me know. £2 each - can PM me and I will hand over at a game. bought a few to flog to Bury Broncos lads and some left over I think
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| Just going back to the debate earlier this week, I was criticised for not accepting the doom & gloom that descended based on, the gospel according to saint Kennedy of Sale Sharks, who was to take over Salford city reds with almost immediate effect.
I said with the money invested by Salford council they would have something to say!
In the Advertiser this weeks " Bosses are tackled over stadium use" It says Salford borrowed £20million & own 40 acres of the site compared to Peel holdings 30 acres! That to me sounds like the council have a big stake & are right behind Salford rugby club.
If we want answers lets put pressure on our council there stake is by far the highest, mind you it not the doom & gloom some want so might not raise an eyebrow.
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| Maybe but at least our lads are playing for their new contracts (well Smithy is at least)
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| I spoke to a few Sale fans on Friday night and all were unhappy with the plan... the transport issues of getting from north Cheshire to Barton and home were putting them off. They were aware of the motorway jams, the distance from the tram and nearest train staions, and the time added that would interrupt the social nature of going to the game.
I talked two to coming to Bradford today as well (they are in the area and were up for a RL match).
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"I spoke to a few Sale fans on Friday night and all were unhappy with the plan... the transport issues of getting from north Cheshire to Barton and home were putting them off. They were aware of the motorway jams, the distance from the tram and nearest train staions, and the time added that would interrupt the social nature of going to the game.
I talked two to coming to Bradford today as well (they are in the area and were up for a RL match).'"
I'll bet they were impressed.
Great display from Salford yesterday, it should be a good game on Friday.
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| It is looking more likely that Brian Kennedy will be putting some money into Glasgow
[url=http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/03/26/potential-rangers-owner-brian-kennedy-attends-old-firm-match-with-graeme-souness-86908-23801657/The Latest[/url
[url=http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/rangers/2012/03/23/prospective-rangers-owner-brian-kennedy-would-never-leave-ibrox-club-at-death-s-door-says-brother-in-lawReasons Why ?[/url
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"It is looking more likely that Brian Kennedy will be putting some money into Glasgow
[url=http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/03/26/potential-rangers-owner-brian-kennedy-attends-old-firm-match-with-graeme-souness-86908-23801657/The Latest[/url
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Even more reasons to dislike him.
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| Rugby union Premiership entry rules stipulate that all top-flight clubs have to register their declared ground for the following season by March 31, a deadline that passed at the weekend.
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| Quote Rugby union Premiership entry rules stipulate that all top-flight clubs have to register their declared ground for the following season by March 31, a deadline that passed at the weekend.'" How do we know they hav`nt registered Barton ?
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| SALE SET FOR SALFORD GROUND SHARE
[iSale Sharks are poised to announce a ground-sharing move with Super League club Salford City Reds.
The Sharks have been linked for some time with a switch to the new £26million City of Salford Stadium, which opened earlier this year, and have called a press conference at the ground on Wednsday [4-4-12 morning "to make a major club announcement".
Sale have spent the last nine years at Stockport's Edgeley Park after moving from the club's Heywood Road base but are thought to have struck a deal with Peel Holdings and Salford City Council, the joint owners of the 12,000-seater stadium at Barton, just off the M60 motorway.
Premiership entry rules stipulate that all top-flight clubs have to register their declared ground for the following season by March 31, a deadline that passed at the weekend.
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| 'Salford, whose crowds so far at their new home have been disappointing, hovering below the 6,000 mark, are set to welcome the move.'
-Skysports.com
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| This is where Salford arrive at a cross roads, either the presence of a bigger club of a rival code (that hates RL) will prompt and trigger the board to up a gear with marketing or the usual rugby league apathy and passiveness will cause the club to become the 2nd best at the SCS.
Maybe the move from Weaste was a mistake if the club's future isnt as bright as we all expected. Union is never to be trusted as a system and corporate rival. Maybe many junior/amateur RU clubs have great relations with RL clubs but at the top end of the ladder, both rugby clubs will be competing for the corporate meal ticket...union has the edge I'm afraid unless RL clubs take action.
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| Picket line at Barton on Wednesday morning then?
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