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| I was under the impression the stadium capacity had been reduced to 15,000 but the new application shows 20,000???
[iFull application for the erection of: a 20,000 capacity community stadium with associated integrated facilities including offices, players facilities, hospitality, concessions and community, executive and media rooms to be constructed in 3 phases; two outdoor sports pitches, (one grass and one artificial); community changing facility; and new access off Liverpool Road together with associated car parking and landscaping.
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| Quote ="theredshed"I was under the impression the stadium capacity had been reduced to 15,000 but the new application shows 20,000???
[iFull application for the erection of: a 20,000 capacity community stadium with associated integrated facilities including offices, players facilities, hospitality, concessions and community, executive and media rooms to be constructed in 3 phases; two outdoor sports pitches, (one grass and one artificial); community changing facility; and new access off Liverpool Road together with associated car parking and landscaping.
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And still no mention of a standing area. An absolute MUST!
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| Isn't this where the 15'000 & 20'000 capacity comes from, 15'000 seats and 5'000 standing?
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| Quote ="Red Preacher"And still no mention of a standing area. An absolute MUST!'"
I heard that there will be two standing areas!!!
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| Quote ="theredshed"I heard that there will be two standing areas!!!'"
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That design is a little out of date I believe. The design released last month was somewhat different.
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That design is a little out of date I believe. The design released last month was somewhat different.
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| I have always enjoyed standing at matches but have recently found that sitting is much easier with 2 children under the age of 4. At the Willows we have a family stand which is a free seated area (albeit behind the away supporters; major flaw I believe but hey ho!)
My question is this. When we move to Barton are the ticket prices going to be different for those who wish to sit down? I fully understand all of you who want to remain on your feet and your calls for the standing area are fine by me. But I would be a bit miffed if the current situation where I can choose to stand or sit at no extra cost was taken away just because it's a new ground!
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| Anybody managed to take any pics since the fencing has been errected?
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| Quote ="red13pjb"My question is this. When we move to Barton are the ticket prices going to be different for those who wish to sit down? I fully understand all of you who want to remain on your feet and your calls for the standing area are fine by me. But I would be a bit miffed if the current situation where I can choose to stand or sit at no extra cost was taken away just because it's a new ground!'"
You're privileged that The Willows operates this policy for the North Stand. It's generally the case that seating is slightly more expensive than standing (ground admission) where available. You'd have to expect to pay between £1-5 more per seat. To be honest, I wouldn't mind paying the same price as the lowest priced seat to stand.
The reasons behind this could be that seats cost more to maintain or they that were always seen as the luxury option before Hillsborough. It may be more likely that the pricing is a hangover from 110 years ago, when Archibald Leitch — architect of many football grounds of the time — devised a formula that for every person which sat, two could stand; therefore, the seated would pay a premium. That mantra doesn't really apply today but you can see why many stadia still tier its pricing in such a way.
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| Quote ="Red Devil 09"Anybody managed to take any pics since the fencing has been errected?'"
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| Quote ="theredshed"Quote ="Red Devil 09"Anybody managed to take any pics since the fencing has been errected?'"
[url=http://img810.imageshack.us/i/groundworks2.jpg/[/url'"
He looks a real local lad!!!!!
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| Quote ="Red Devil 09"Anybody managed to take any pics since the fencing has been errected?'"
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| Quote ="Red John"'"
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| Quote ="Red Devil 09"Anybody managed to take any pics since the fencing has been errected?'"
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| You've got the biggest fence in the land, oh Salford a massive club!
Seriously, glad to see the stadium happening now, i drive opast it every night about half 6ish and they seem to be moving along quite quickly with levelling it etc. My only gripe with it (because everybody has to have atleast one) is just how close it is to the airfield, i dont know what its like for noise though!!
Anyway you know if the only flaw we can find is the airfield youre onto a winner!
See ya next year
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| Quote ="red13pjb"I have always enjoyed standing at matches but have recently found that sitting is much easier with 2 children under the age of 4. At the Willows we have a family stand which is a free seated area (albeit behind the away supporters; major flaw I believe but hey ho!)
My question is this. When we move to Barton are the ticket prices going to be different for those who wish to sit down? I fully understand all of you who want to remain on your feet and your calls for the standing area are fine by me. But I would be a bit miffed if the current situation where I can choose to stand or sit at no extra cost was taken away just because it's a new ground!'"
Expect £21 standing, £24 seating IMO just to price even more fans out of the game.
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| I appreciate what you're saying Chico and fully agree that that is how stadia justify charging more for seats than standing. My point is that there are a lot of people calling for there to be a standing area and therefore I don't see why people who want to sit should be charged more in this particular case. This was originally billed as a 20,000 ALL SEATER stadium. Now why should those who are happy with seats be charged more than those who have asked specifically to stand (totally justifiably btw). I fully support the right for every supporter to stand up at rugby matches and if it wasn't for me having little ones I'd prefer to do so myself.
I am calling for a sensible and fair pricing policy. I would suggest that there are quite a few shed dwellers who would stand up even if the pricing was the other way round and you had to pay less for a seat!!! Further more I would suggest that quite a number of aforementioned shed dwellers would stand up in an all seater stadium
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| Quote ="red13pjb"This was originally billed as a 20,000 ALL SEATER stadium.'"
It was originally billed as a 20,000 capacity stadium [iwith[/i a standing area. Since, the details about said standing area have been sketchy at best.
There's an article in an issue of [iThe Scarlet Turkey[/i you can read online about so-called 'safe-standing' that may be of interest.
I wouldn't be too upset if the standing area happened to be cheaper than the seats; it's the accepted norm. Although I've already said I would pay equal to the cheapest seat to stand, you can bet there are others who would baulk at the suggestion.
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| Quote ="Jimmy85"You've got the biggest fence in the land, oh Salford a massive club!
Seriously, glad to see the stadium happening now, i drive opast it every night about half 6ish and they seem to be moving along quite quickly with levelling it etc. My only gripe with it (because everybody has to have atleast one) is just how close it is to the airfield, i dont know what its like for noise though!!
Anyway you know if the only flaw we can find is the airfield youre onto a winner!
See ya next year
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Well its not a massive airfield and when you are surrounded with other people singing their hearts out you tend not to hear much background noise.
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| Is anyone able to throw any light on this for me:
Do the plans still include a link road underneath the M60 towards/from Peel Green
Or has this been scrapped ([idue to costs etc[/i), and access will be from the A57 only.
Just wondered, that's all.
Ta, Col
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"Is anyone able to throw any light on this for me:
Do the plans still include a link road underneath the M60 towards/from Peel Green
Or has this been scrapped ([idue to costs etc[/i), and access will be from the A57 only.
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That's a separate scheme that feeds in to this so won't be on the planning application - it's the "Western Gateway Infrastructure Scheme". I'm pretty sure it's still happening though.
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| Thanks Iain.
That's the image, with Brookhouse Cemetery top left and Trafford Centre bottom right, it's the configuration between those that I ([ithink[/i) I was referring to.
So this will happen in due course, until then it's A57 only hey ?
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| Quote ="Jim Jalfrezi"Is anyone able to throw any light on this for me:
Do the plans still include a link road underneath the M60 towards/from Peel Green
Or has this been scrapped ([idue to costs etc[/i), and access will be from the A57 only.
Just wondered, that's all.
Ta, Col'"
JJ as I understand the situation the link road is still to be built unless someone else knows differently and it will be called the Smithy68 Highway.
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