You seem pretty sure about that. I on the other hand don't think that the council will hand over a source of potential income when It's a proven money maker as they have found in the other premises that they use in this way for weddings etc...

This is far bigger than Buile Hill where they cater for up to a hundred people at a wedding once or twice a week. Can you imagine a big function with 750 diners and Doreen one of the Chef's phones in sick with a bad back?

Honestly something on this scale calls for professional caterers who employ huge numbers and can pull in staff from other places at short notice.

, you might find it harder to fill those 750 seats

50% more have you ever bought a drink in the Willows?

I never realised they did meals at Hilton Park!

At huge cost , when added to profit , makes for not a lot left for SCR , as I asked earlier , are SCR in total control of the selling of concessions and the running of the stadium ?

Last week at Leigh I counted the pitchside advertising , if you take out SKY sports , Carnegie ,Co op ,Northern Rail , there was left 9 other companies , 5 of whom are shirt sponsors , leaving 4 actual companies that had paid for pitchside adds

Why is this ? , simple , the club doesn't recieve any of the pitchside advertising , so local companies that normally take it up ' to help support the club ' havent bothered

Will SCR recieve the revenue from pitchside advertising at the Barton stadium ?

Hilton suite was sold out most games , between 100/120 covers , better food and atmosphere than several SL clubs , that coming from fans who had sampled both

Wasn't a thriller then?

You'll be more than welcome down the Willows anytime if it's that dull at the LSV??

We were playing our reserves verses Hull Dockers in the cup , and it was at half time

Serious question though , have you sold your soul to the devil that is Salford City Council ?

Where have you got the 750 diners from? I can't see anything on the website to say how much the corp hosp will hold. Plus do you really think there will be that many using the facility?

Also believe it or not Buile hill can take up to 350 people. It doesn't take that much more to cater for double that amount nowadays. I also think your not giving the staff who do the catering much respect. I've sampled their food before and it' of a decent quality.

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I read it somewhere. If you consider the size of it from the drawings it's huge and spans virtually the length of the pitch as is several metres wide.

I'm sorry you feel that I'm not giving much respect to the council, I certainly didn't intend to give anyone that impression. I can't recall making any critisism about the quality of the food, venue or service.

You must appreciate that there is much more too this than the preperation and serving of food. There is a big initial outlay to consider that would probably cost the council a lot more than professional caterering contractors who have huge buying powers, vast experience and recruitment expertise in their field. For instance they will source certain foods, beverages and kitchen equipment cheaper and will have a much greater understanding of running a big venue like this from experience. They will employ top sales people to attract people to the venue because it's in their interests to get people in. Why do clubs like Man United, Man City, Warrington not do their own catering if it's that easy and there is so much money to be made from it?

I could argue that you are not showing any respect to professional catering contractors who after all are experts in their own field.

They dont , they sell on the catering franchise for money , just as your stadium management will , but thats the point , who will be running the stadium ? Salford City Couincil or SCR s ?

If it is the council , you wont recieve anything from that sale

Quote ="mmp"this... www.reds.co.uk/community-news/re ... ter-sucess is not happening coincidentally... hospitality space here... www.salfordstadium.com/facilities.htm'" Cheers Mike Whilst being only small numbers that first link does look somewhat encouraging doesn't it?

Quote ="mmp"this... www.reds.co.uk/community-news/re ... ter-sucess is not happening coincidentally... hospitality space here... www.salfordstadium.com/facilities.htm'" Cheers Mike Whilst being only small numbers that first link does look somewhat encouraging doesn't it?

Starbug new stadiums cost millions they aren't free. Leigh's problem is they ain't attracting nearly enough people for the great facility they are in. It would probably stack up for you a lot better if you were getting bigger crowds in Superleague.

It's worked for Hull and they considered nothing more than a second tennent at the KC.

Who will run the stadium

Salford Council , or SCR s ?

The 750 diners figure is correct and it was mentioned at the AGM in January.

There will be 12 corporate boxes, four have already been taken up.

The corporate side,marketing and filling the 750 places will be undertaken by a specialist company who are as i understand it currently working with Northampton Saints Rugby Union Club and their aim will be to use the facilities on as many occasions as possible as they do already at Northampton.

There is another marketing company on board to sell the stadium to the general public as has been mentioned a few weeks ago.

You already know the answer to this so why ask? The company running the stadium are the company that are spending over 20 million to build it. Just because it hasn't worked for Leigh due years of decline and smaller crowds in the national league doesn't mean it can't help us move forward. If I had a choice between this and staying at the Willows without a franchise it would be this every time.

Will there not be a joint management team,the club,the council and Peel?

yup. its about a step change to support the club. it is pre-planned, ready to make a difference next year

Hopefully for your sake , yes

Stadium management companies are set up for new stadiums to recover the outlay, running costs and maintenance of a stadium. They will look to maximise the earnings from the stadium and it's hospitality facilities 52 weeks of the year.

A tennent pays a rent for playing matches at the stadium and has use of all the facilities on matchdays. The club are also provided with offices, club shop and changing/treatment area's. There is a cost to the tennent but you have to consider the tennent is not having to pay rates, utility costs, ground maintenence costs, insurance, policing, and for matchday staffing as they would in their previous home. For a rugby league club with 13 home fixtures a year (Less Cup) it just doesn't make sense owning your own ground, especially if it's inferior to a new stadium that has much better facilities.

For the move to be successful it's absolutely vital the club attracts more support and sponsorship than they did in their previous ground. This has been Leigh's problem and that's why Starbug is so bitter about the situation at the LSV. Unfortunately for Leigh their new stadium has had no effect on increasing support and it leaves the club with less control than at Hilton Park for increasing revenue through other means.

Yes it is vital to attract more support , if you look on the last page you will see how much money and how long it will take to get a new stadium to self susstaining for SCR s , it gives me no pleasure to see that you might end up in a similar position to Leigh , believe me , i wish that upon no RL club

I have posted what I have in response to numerous posts by Salford fans on this thread who seem under the impression that the stadium will instantly generate hundreds of thousands of pounds in extra revenue for the club

It wont , that will only happen through fans through the turnstyles , and that will need a lot of hard work and money

Believe me,the Chairman and the other directors are under no illusion that a new stadium alone will not automatically generate a large amount of extra revenue into SCR.

They know what crowds we have to achieve to make the club a success on and off the field and they have also carried out numerous checks and balances to help in increasing the crowds which includes the corporate side as well as the playing staff and facilities.

I don't know how the Leigh Sports Village was set up and is currently operated, but where would Leigh Centurions be now if they didn't have the stadium?

From what I hear big inroads are being made at the club into attracting new money into the club from areas/companies/individuals who up to now for whatever reason have not made any commitment previously.

Still playing at Hilton Park , with a capacity set at 1,000 by the council

Or more likely playing at Crilly park in Atherton with a 500 capacity

Hmm that'd be a bit tough but on the bright side, Crackin' Guinness in the bar